85_Ranger4x4
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At that point I'd probably just get a 3/4 ton.
A tune I wouldn't fuss over, a supercharger on a truck to work would be a hard pass for me.
At that point I'd probably just get a 3/4 ton.
Tons of Toyotas will- tons of Fords as well- probably the super duty gas motorsEngineered obsolescence, engineered to fail = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Guy down the street has a '57 Chevy, stock, maintained, not rebuilt, still rides just fine and it starts when he gets in it to drive it. I seriously doubt any vehicle made today will be on the road in 20 years with just regular maintenance, if they are they will probably have some major overhaul or replacement.
Ford now offers a factory tune for the 3.5. Personally I'll pass. I'm leaving my drivetrain stock. Plenty of power for me.A tune I wouldn't fuss over, a supercharger on a truck to work would be a hard pass for me.
Same here. My 2016 that I bought new has been trouble free. My understanding is that the newest version of the 3.5 Ecoboost puts out 500 lb-ft of torque - that's almost what the 5.9 Cummins in my 2004 Dodge has. What's amazing is that 90% of that torque the Ecoboost puts out is available at 1700 rpm - just like a diesel. That's why it pulls a trailer so well. I'd consider a newer F150 but I don't trust the new 10 speed. The 6 speed in my 2016 has been trouble free.Ford now offers a factory tune for the 3.5. Personally I'll pass. I'm leaving my drivetrain stock. Plenty of power for me.
Exaclty. The low end torque is what prompted my move from a 5.0L to a 3.5.Same here. My 2016 that I bought new has been trouble free. My understanding is that the newest version of the 3.5 Ecoboost puts out 500 lb-ft of torque - that's almost what the 5.9 Cummins in my 2004 Dodge has. What's amazing is that 90% of that torque the Ecoboost puts out is available at 1700 rpm - just like a diesel. That's why it pulls a trailer so well. I'd consider a newer F150 but I don't trust the new 10 speed. The 6 speed in my 2016 has been trouble free.
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I hate my 3.5L twin turbo in my 2018 F150. Yes there are maintenance issues: cam phaser, oil leaks, coolant leaks, turbo failure, while at highway speeds it tells me the emergency brake is on, etc. But that isn't what bothers me. I absolutely hate the lag with turbo's. I have almost died more than a handful of times when waiting for the turbos to spool up. Not having instantaneous power is dangerous. If I didn't come from a 5.8L Tundra the turbo's may not be a problem. But when you are used to the instantaneous power and then lose it, well, it sucks. If I had it to do again I would definitely get a 5.0 if I bought a F150.
I found the same coming from a 5.0. Out of curiosity do the 2018 - 2019's have Sport mode?Almost died????
Be more careful pulling out in front of something!!!
I have never had that issue in my 2019 3.5 eb.
Actually I find much poorer acceleration in the v8s I drive. That .1 second lag with the turbo is more than made up for when it kicks in. The v-8s are dogs at low rpm’s and their torque curves are about as flat as the earth!!
I found the same coming from a 5.0. Out of curiosity do the 2018 - 2019's have Sport mode?
I usually drive in Eco but, when I switch into Sport, you can def tell a difference.
@ITTOG If your truck has this feature, have you tried driving in this mode?
I just think a NA V8 is the way to go
My 5.3L engine has been fine, just turned 107,000 miles
I do like modern day features, like power slider, power sunroof, heated steering wheel.......but I'm just not sold on turbo gas engines nor modern day half ton diesel engines (emissions)
I also refuse to run anything over 87 octane
GMC / Chevy
5.3L V8 325 cid
355 HP @ 5,600 RPM
383 TQ @ 4,100 RPM
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Dodge Ram
5.7L V8 345 cid
395 HP @ 5,600 RPM
410 TQ @ 3,950 RPM
I just drive it in whatever mode it starts up in. Not sure what it is called but I never change the modes except for towing. Sure, sport would probably resolve the issue but when you are trying to change lanes quickly I never think or should have to change the mode beforehand. It is just OEM tune as well. These engines are too sensitive to get a tune on it. I know too many that end up blowing turbo's, engines, or transmissions once they start doing that.I found the same coming from a 5.0. Out of curiosity do the 2018 - 2019's have Sport mode?
I usually drive in Eco but, when I switch into Sport, you can def tell a difference.
@ITTOG If your truck has this feature, have you tried driving in this mode?
My 2012 F150 3.5L Eco was powerful yes......but never got over 13.5 mpg
Good odds my Toyota will live longer than 20 years. It's 8 now, and I only have 28k miles on it... 🤪Tons of Toyotas will....