What happened to the two xpcampers?
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workerdrone
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crickets....would prefer if deleted or withdrawn threads still showed up in the list, perhaps with nothing but the title left? It's had me thinking I was losing it a few times here 
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SkiFlyRide
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I pulled my ad down (the 2016 F350-based rig). While I would still like to sell it, the interest seemed to be waning. I may re-post it in the spring or summer, after we've had some time to use it more and be OK with a lower asking price on it. If you're interested, PM me and I can send you all the information.
Nomads365
A Most Adventurous Couple
I love your setup but can't come to get a financial-grip around the cost of that almost-new truck.
The one on a Dodge chassis that was located in Oregon was pending-sale as of last week (so the buyer told me).
This one is still out there: http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/161625-XP-Camper-V1-For-Sale
And Marc has a used truck/camper listed on his site: http://xpcamper.com/classifieds/used-xpcampers/
I'm sorry, I know we aren't supposed to comment on price here, but $105,000??? ******? That is more than the price of a brand new XP camper and the KBB on the 2002 F350 combined. And it's a 2012 XP V1, basically one of the first models. Holy taquito.
SkiFlyRide
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That is a big part of the reason I pulled our ad down. At an asking price of $155k for an essentially new rig (less than 10 nights in the camper), it was well over $20k less than we had just paid for the rig. But it seems that quite a few of the people interested in an XPCamper are looking for one that has been around the world already but still in new condition at less than half the price it would take to buy a new one. I can understand that mentality, having hoped to find a used one over the years of planning one.
On the other side and why we eventually fell off the fence and pulled the trigger, the rig is basically 75% of an Earthroamer in terms of capability, function, etc. at well less than half the price. It's still $75k+ less expensive than an Earthcruiser and that wouldn't have worked for the three of us plus a dog anyway. And there really is no comparison between the XPCamper and any of the other slide-in pop-up truck campers in terms of quality/durability. But that comes at a steep price compared to those.
Our reason for listing was basically life happened in the 3 years of planning an XPCamper and made it less likely we were going to be able to do what we were wanting to with it. Jobs changed. A couple of moves. And now, thanks to a severe slow down in my industry, I'm looking to make a complete career change after 20+ years of doing the same thing. So we would have preferred to be able to sell the XP if we could do so without giving it away. I got the impression we wouldn't be able to do that, so we will keep it and use it as much as we can until the time comes that the value we have taken out of it crosses the value that the market places on it.
It really is a great product concept. 80 gallons of fresh water, 65 gallons of diesel, ~675 watts of solar power, ~600aH of battery capacity, with room for 3+ in traveling comfort. It's just not a cheap product concept.
workerdrone
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People should be able to ask whatever they want. And I wouldn't care if other people could also publicly question the price, but the rules are the rules. I don't own the site and I believe in following the rules in most cases
KBB is just a guideline - I've purchased many vehicles below KBB, and some above.
If I were the V1 owner who wasn't getting interest, I'd drop the price or add more data supporting it. Or, if I didn't need the money, just leave it on here. It don't cost a thing to leave the ad up, and occasionally you see old, old ads bumped up by someone asking if it's still available. Great worldwide exposure for that type of vehicle on the market.
The economy is not as good as we are told it is, and my gut feeling is that there are a lot of people on these types of sites, dreaming, and irritated that they don't have the funds to buy their dream vehicle.
KBB is just a guideline - I've purchased many vehicles below KBB, and some above.
If I were the V1 owner who wasn't getting interest, I'd drop the price or add more data supporting it. Or, if I didn't need the money, just leave it on here. It don't cost a thing to leave the ad up, and occasionally you see old, old ads bumped up by someone asking if it's still available. Great worldwide exposure for that type of vehicle on the market.
The economy is not as good as we are told it is, and my gut feeling is that there are a lot of people on these types of sites, dreaming, and irritated that they don't have the funds to buy their dream vehicle.
Nomads365
A Most Adventurous Couple
Thanks for your comments here I appreciate them.
For some perspective, as a prospective buyer I'm needing to consider four different "packages" while looking at pricing for a used rig: the XPCamper, the truck, the flatbed, and any options for each (camper, truck, flatbed, recovery gear, etc.). There's so many differences between the used ones I was able to locate that I had to create a freakin' spreadsheet just to analyze them. Not to mention the sales tax that might be in play, i.e. do I purchase a truck with all the parts already installed, or do I purchase a truck and parts (suspension, bumper, winch, tires/wheels, etc.), then have all the options installed in tax-free Oregon?
Another big question is whether these campers "wear out" with use. Is a 2012 model that's been updated by Marc himself and includes a 1-yr warranty as good as a new model? I'm guessing only time will tell, along with feedback from owners that have used them for longer than a few years.
I've pretty much reached the conclusion I'll have to be patient, find a nice used truck of my choice, then build it out the way I want it, including the XP flatbed options. Once that's done I'll either look for a used camper only, or place an order for a new one that's spec'd the way I want it. FYI, current lead-time on the campers is 8 months.
SkiFlyRide
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LDRydr,
You're correct. And my rig was only ever going to be interesting to someone considering a new camper on a new truck.
Basically, at $85k for the basic camper and flatbed together (now ~$90k with the price increases), even with a used 1-ton truck at ~$25k-$30k, the rig is still well over $100k. Then add to that the inevitable work to the truck to really make it ready for carrying the camper (suspension) and the other 'goodies' (bumper, winch, wheels), even a $25k used truck platform will still put you near $130k - $140k for a rig ready to go. As I said, that is a bargain compared to some systems out there (especially the part about being able to pick a used truck as the platform). But still a heck of a price for a go-anywhere rig.
As for the camper wearing out, that's one of the reasons we went with XP. I really do believe it will last MUCH longer, even with harder use, than a stick or even aluminum-frame built truck camper. Years of beating on racing sailboats in harsh conditions sold me on the construction.
Good luck with the search. With more of them being built, there will inevitably be more used ones for sale eventually.
Cheers!