What's wth those Disco's anyways?

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MoGas

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Its a truck...not a savings account or a stocks and bonds portfolio...if you need to worry about the money you can't afford a land rover...A land rover is bought or acquired because you are passionate about the product...If it needs to be explained to you ...you probably wouldn't get it.. If we all bought a vehicle based on sensibility we all would be driving a honda civic...be a shepherd... not a sheep... Take a look at a couple of the comparisons done by top gear and see for yourself. There must be a reason why land rovers are synonomous with long distance off the beaten track expeditions...granted, so are land cruisers...but sadly those vehicles are not released here...and even sadder still neither are the legendary expedition worthy Land Rovers such as the defender 110's 90's and 130's.. Like they say...
LAND ROVER...the best 4x4xfar...
Jeeps and Landcruisers are famous...Land Rovers are legendary..
but of course that's just my opinion...

Irregardless.

I would say that of the 3 marques you mention, Jeep is probably the most legendary.

I'm not saying that a person has to buy anything. I just think people should always try to go into things eyes wide open. If you prefer Land Rover products, that's just fine. I have been burned once and will gladly let people know. I also know that vehicles are not a stock per se, but they are an investment. I prefer to invest in something that will retain value. I like Musclecars. My preference is Oldsmobiles mainly because it is against the current so to speak.

Do yourself a favor and try not to take yourself so seriously. You are starting to sound like a Corvette or Ferrari guy. Or worse an EE guy.....


Cheers.
 

The Rover Shop

Explorer
Vehicles are not designed to be an investment..they are a utilitarian tool, if they were an investment we would stick them in a bank and not use them as our primary source of transportation...4 wheel drive vehicles are meant to be scratched up and dented and broken and are a tool with which we access recreational enjoyment. I am at a TOTAL loss how you could possibly think that Jeep is even in the same class as a Land Rover..Land Rovers are sold worldwide, jeeps are not, so I am sure you are getting a one-sided view of what you classify as legendary, the american marketing machine has been hard at work to make the american public THINK that Jeep is legendary...other parts of the world people say..JEEP..??? what is that...something for people who haven't worked their way up to a Land Rover yet.. Seriously, name some of the famous expeditions that have been done in a Jeep..!!! Trust me, I don't take myself too seriously, owning a Land Rover repair shop I see all of the maladies and problems that these pieces of cr** come in with...Land Rovers are not what they used to be..with all of their electronics now to do stuff that we don't need in order to cater to the "mass market" they have become unreliable trail problems waiting to break and leave us stranded....and don't even START attacking my FERRARI...LOL...
 

toylandcruiser

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Vehicles are not designed to be an investment..they are a utilitarian tool, if they were an investment we would stick them in a bank and not use them as our primary source of transportation...4 wheel drive vehicles are meant to be scratched up and dented and broken and are a tool with which we access recreational enjoyment. I am at a TOTAL loss how you could possibly think that Jeep is even in the same class as a Land Rover..Land Rovers are sold worldwide, jeeps are not, so I am sure you are getting a one-sided view of what you classify as legendary, the american marketing machine has been hard at work to make the american public THINK that Jeep is legendary...other parts of the world people say..JEEP..??? what is that...something for people who haven't worked their way up to a Land Rover yet.. Seriously, name some of the famous expeditions that have been done in a Jeep..!!! Trust me, I don't take myself too seriously, owning a Land Rover repair shop I see all of the maladies and problems that these pieces of cr** come in with...Land Rovers are not what they used to be..with all of their electronics now to do stuff that we don't need in order to cater to the "mass market" they have become unreliable trail problems waiting to break and leave us stranded....and don't even START attacking my FERRARI...LOL...

In my travels around the world. Ive seen more Toyotas and Mercedes trucks than I have land rover.
 
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jwlester

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Irregardless.

Not a word......ok grammar Nazi off.

I'm not wading into this argument. I've obviously made my choice, though my wife's next DD will probably be a very slightly used LC or LX470. My next LR will probably be a D1 or 110, depending on what continent I'm working on.

Anyone that is "investing" in cars is crazy. Even the big boys making millions on exotic classic cars haven't made their money there. Its just a pass time. I think it will be interesting to see what happens to the market for American muscle when the baby boomers start departing this world. I fear for those that have their inheritance tied up in such a shaky market.
 

The Rover Shop

Explorer
Ummm grammar nazi...its PASTIME....LOL...and mine's never off...just sporadically subdued in the interest of occasionally being non-confrontational....:coffee:
 

RangeBrover

Explorer
Alright guys let's cool off, the OP asked why Discos cost less than Cruisers, this doesn't need to turn into a why Land Rover Sucks and Toyotas are awesome thread, or about Anyones choice of investment for retirement.

At the end of the day Toyotas are probably more reliable than Land Rovers and I can admit to that, I've owned two discos and my current range rover so I think I'm fairly experienced enough with the brand to make that statement. Land Rovers are not perfect, but that is what's so great about them. All three of mine have never left me stranded, and have always gotten me from A to B. Sure a windows switch might stop working, or your sunroof might leak, but until you own a rover you just won't get it. A lot of guys like to trash talk Land Rovers and even Toyotas without even owning one of the brands respective vehicles. At the end of the day drive what you love to drive and own what you want to own, will a Toyota outlast a comparable Rover? Without a doubt, but who cares? Land Rovers are a sickness and the only cure is more cowbell... I mean rovers.
 

The Rover Shop

Explorer
My point is not to upset the cheep...umm I mean jeep crowd but to point out that there must be something about land rover for their longevity and ability to be reliable since there are, I would tentatively say at least 2 to 1 Land Rovers utilised for expeditions than jeeps... The ratio may not be that high against the Land Cruisers but as i mentioned before the USA doesn't get the good Land Cruisers any more nor the good Land Rovers (has to have a diesel)... It's really only in the USA that Jeeps are used in any significant numbers and even then probably not enough to outnumber Land Rovers... There is more to the world than the US expeditions..Even the more memorable US expeditions have been in a Land Rover..i.e..the great divide expedition.. my trip to the grocery store in the summer of 98...I don't remember seeing any Jeeps in the middle of Africa...!!!...and we won't even get on the subject of the Camel Trophy expeditions..(and I bow when I type that iconic phrase)...LOL...
 

MoGas

Central Scrutinizer
Oh yeah...that's a good one...everyone in WWII drove a jeep..and it was their last one..

The depths of your ignorance interests me.

I have been operating under the assumption that you were intelligent enough to realize that:

A)We all take a little ribbing about our vehicles on occasion. Sack up.

B)You were not just some fanboy.

C)Everyone knows that the Jeep of WWII introduced the concept of a light weight, highly maneuverable, utility vehicle to both Europe (where Great Britain is) and Japan.

Since you obviously don't know the history of your own profession, I'll make it simple for you.

In jolly old POST WAR Great Britain (where Rover was started), there was a chap named Maurice Wilkes and his brother Spencer (who was, at the time, Managing Director of Rover Company Limited), who had built the first prototype Rover ON A JEEP CHASSIS!!!! Now where did they get this idea? Well, Maurice had a Jeep that was surplus from the war (WWII) that he used on his farm (his farm was on an island named Anglesley, that is part of the United Kingdom, which is where Rover started), It was pretty worn out, as it had helped to defend his country from certain takeover by Germany, then it had been used for various tasks around his farm. It was hard to get individual repair parts, because most parts were sold in bulk surplus at the time. So, he and his brother built a prototype vehicle, based on the Jeep, to fill a need created by the Jeep.

Hopefully, you could follow that.

BTW, The first Camel Trophy was with Jeep.
 

MoGas

Central Scrutinizer
...but until you own a rover you just won't get it. A lot of guys like to trash talk Land Rovers and even Toyotas without even owning one of the brands respective vehicles. At the end of the day drive what you love to drive and own what you want to own, will a Toyota outlast a comparable Rover? Without a doubt, but who cares?

I have owned all 3 of the marques mentioned. I have a Toyota now. I may buy a new Jeep Rubicon soon. I have had from a '43 Willy's MB to a 1987 Grand Wagoneer with several CJs in the middle. I also had given Land Rover a shot. It didn't work out for me. I did not bash the Rover brand. I simply stated my personal experiences.

Again with the investment. I don't ever expect to get more money for a vehicle than I paid. That is not realistic for me. I like to hit the skinny pedal on my 442 and lay patches of Goodrich's finest on the pavement. It is fun. I don't think people are wrong for anything. Everything is a choice, and I am free to make mine, you are free to make yours.

Those who say that one thing is "The Best" are either in the business of selling that particular widget, or have bought into the hype created around said widget, or are just plain ignorant. My junk is a '93 FZJ80 with some extra junk on it that I know I don't need. I like it and it goes where I point it reliably. If someone doesn't like it, oh well. I don't do things for the approval of others.


Cheers.
 

MoGas

Central Scrutinizer
Irregardless is a word in the literal sense. It is in the Merriam-Webster dictionary and has first usage noted circa 1912.

It is not generally accepted as a grammatically correct word, though.

I use "irregardless" knowing this already. It is a fun conversation starter.
 

jwlester

Observer
Irregardless is a word in the literal sense. It is in the Merriam-Webster dictionary and has first usage noted circa 1912.

It is not generally accepted as a grammatically correct word, though.

I use "irregardless" knowing this already. It is a fun conversation starter.


Fair enough. I don't think I can find much issue with any of your logic or your facts. Opinion/experience with the Wagoneer? Those certainly seem to be another war starter.

I too seem to be into all the cult following stuff that most aren't. I think thats where the best deal is and most of the depreciate happens quickly. Its good to be different and save a few bucks while doing it.
 

jwlester

Observer
Ummm grammar nazi...its PASTIME....LOL...and mine's never off...just sporadically subdued in the interest of occasionally being non-confrontational....:coffee:

That would be a typo missed by spell check, not a grammar mistake. I'm an ingineer. I'm incapable of spelling correctly. It was a jab, I know. I never used to even notice these things, until a coworker pointed it out to me. Now it drives me nuts.

Anyway, I think the OP has had their questions answered. My morning cup is empty. Everyone have a great day.
 
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