Where can I shoot?
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craig333
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Of course the best plan is to not get stopped. In CA, best I can tell there is no legal way to carry a gun in my Jeep. I carry the gun in a locked case, separate the ammo and hope for the best. Most cops, especially in rural areas won't give you hard time unless you ask for one.
Photobug
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I think the RV falls under the same category without a trunk so anything in the vehicle is accessible. From this reading of the penal code sounds like if you have your weapon in a locked box you should be legal. I have seen other references to separating the ammo from the gun and even a second locked box for the ammo but don't see the need for that in the reading of this law.
The question would be can the box be free floating or does it need to be bolted so it is not easily removed from the vehicle? I need to remove a spare tire from the inside of my vehicle to make room but the longterm plan would be to have a through bolted secured locked box onboard.
California Penal Code 25610.
(a) Section 25400 shall not be construed to prohibit any citizen of the United States over the age of 18 years who resides or is temporarily within this state, and who is not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing, receiving, owning, or purchasing a firearm, from transporting or carrying any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, provided that the following applies to the firearm:
(1) The firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container in the vehicle.
(2) The firearm is carried by the person directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while carrying the firearm, the firearm is contained within a locked container.
(b) The provisions of this section do not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful carrying or transportation of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in accordance with the provisions listed in Section 16580.
GTI-88
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The other thing to worry about is mag capacity in some states and jurisdictions.
Its not everyone's cup of tea, but that is one reason I like a 6 shot .357 and a caliber matching lever action. Tons of fun to shoot, plenty adequate if pressed into defensive use, and no worries about mag capacity limitations, separate storage of magazines, etc. Lock your ammo in one box, guns in the other, good to go.
Its not everyone's cup of tea, but that is one reason I like a 6 shot .357 and a caliber matching lever action. Tons of fun to shoot, plenty adequate if pressed into defensive use, and no worries about mag capacity limitations, separate storage of magazines, etc. Lock your ammo in one box, guns in the other, good to go.
Photobug
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It looks like the high capacity mag law in California was ruled unconstitutional just this year.
§ 32310 PC - California Law re Large-Capacity Magazines
California Penal Code § 32310 PC makes possessing, selling, purchasing, giving away, importing, transporting, or making large-capacity magazines (LCMs) illegal.
www.shouselaw.com
I read an interpretation from a California police officer written in 2015. An RV is a home vehicle. When driving you are exposed to the laws of the vehicular code, when parked or camping it becomes a home and the rules change. The locking of guns in a separate location from the ammo, I have not seen any reference to that in the California laws. Am I missing one of the statutes or is the separate container thing to meet the needs of some other state?
That's smart thinking, but the best solution is always going to depend upon where you are. In some places, purchasing/possessing/carrying ANY handgun is a problem for civilians, even if it's a wheel gun.
And in New Jersey, hollow-point ammunition is illegal for civilians outside of their home, so .357 Magnum would be a poor choice there, as it is the 125-grain JHPs that work best at turning bad people into good people in that caliber. .44 Magnum 240-grain JSPs in a 16" lever gun might be an acceptable compromise, but an 18" repeating 12-gauge loaded with slugs or 00 buck would probably be a safer bet.
Sparse Gray Hackle
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Porkchopexpress
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I have done a bit of research as i plan to carry firearms while traveling by RV.
Please verify everything on your own but from what I learned:
-An RV is always legally considered a vehicle and never a home even if you live in it full time.
-If you do not have a locally valid concealed carry permit, you can not keep a firearm in your glove box or center console even if they are locked.
-Even the most restrictive jurisdictions can not prevent you from from traveling through the city/state with firearms that are legal where you came from and where you are going as long as you don't stop besides gas, food, ect and it is secured in a trunk or otherwise inaccessible. I believe this is a federal law, right to travel or something.
My plan is to travel with a 12 gauge shotgun and a 9mm with 10 round magazine as to be legal in as many states as possible. I also want to travel Canada and Alaska so the 9mm will stay at a friend's house near the border and the shotgun is legal, (good for bear country).
As for shooting, I figure there are lots of gun ranges to be found on Google maps. Probably won't risk shooting in random wilderness locations unless I have done local research first.
Please verify everything on your own but from what I learned:
-An RV is always legally considered a vehicle and never a home even if you live in it full time.
-If you do not have a locally valid concealed carry permit, you can not keep a firearm in your glove box or center console even if they are locked.
-Even the most restrictive jurisdictions can not prevent you from from traveling through the city/state with firearms that are legal where you came from and where you are going as long as you don't stop besides gas, food, ect and it is secured in a trunk or otherwise inaccessible. I believe this is a federal law, right to travel or something.
My plan is to travel with a 12 gauge shotgun and a 9mm with 10 round magazine as to be legal in as many states as possible. I also want to travel Canada and Alaska so the 9mm will stay at a friend's house near the border and the shotgun is legal, (good for bear country).
As for shooting, I figure there are lots of gun ranges to be found on Google maps. Probably won't risk shooting in random wilderness locations unless I have done local research first.
jadmt
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No dead serious a bullet can ricochet off a sign.....yes i am being sarcastic but i have seen all that garbage shot up here in my great state. Pretty sad indeed.
Photobug
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I read that as a humorous take on certain states' gun laws are so onerous, as to make shooting someone the least popular option.
GTI-88
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I had no idea about the JHP thing in New Jersey. What'll they come up with next!?
AbleGuy
Officious Intermeddler
Please do let us know how your next drive through New Jersey works out. (Sarcasm, ICYCFTO)
'Honest mistake' leads to Philly mother facing three years on gun charge
A Philadelphia mother of two is facing three years in prison after she mistakenly entered New Jersey, where she was stopped for a traffic violation and found in possession of a handgun loaded with hollow-point bullets.
www.foxnews.com
But other than this JHP ammo issue, you might be ok as long as you carefully abide by the Federal law exemption with regards to transporting firearms there. Meaning a thru traveler with a firearm in their vehicle ‘must have the gun be unloaded, with neither the firearm nor any ammunition readily accessible or directly accessible for the passenger compartment‘*. That can be a pretty big challenge though in a van, cab/chassis walkthrough rig (like our Tiger), Class A,B,C camper, where pretty much everything is accessible in the passenger compartment (wait, unless P.C. means only up front?).
Going out on a limb here and hoping this doesn’t get me into “I’m gonna have to close this thread territory,” I’m gonna have to say that we are way overdue for a strong federal reciprocity law that makes interstate travel with a legally possessed, legally carried firearm much better protected. Or something like that...
*https://www.newjerseygunlawyers.com
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AbleGuy
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Henceforth, this will be known as the R.I.P. thread where sarcasm went to die on Expo.?
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