Which direction to go with my FJ62?

DBS311

Adventurer
Hey guys,

This is kind of an intro, but without pics it is more of an "unofficial" intro. I'm a convert from the more "hardcore" type of wheeling and have already started building my 1990 FJ62 with that type of wheeling in mind. Actually, after reading about Brady's trip up north and after following Dave Connors trek down south, that would be considered hardcore wheeling in my book. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I come from a "rock crawler" background (even though I'm starting to hate that term) and find myself developing a fascination with exploratory (is that a word?) type wheeling.

A little background on my vehicle.........I started with it completely stock and drove it that way for seveal years. First mod was the ARB bumper and 31's on stock suspension. Next step was the OME lift with 33x10.50's. I did most of my off road excursions with it set up this way. Next thing to go on was a roof rack with some aux lighting and a snorkel. I was the guy in college with a truck, so I found myself taking my buddies camping and hauling all the gear. The more I wheeled, the harder the trails I wanted to conquer (for lack of a better term). Sooo, after deciding I was going to turn my Cruiser into a hardcore trail rig, I did the SOA with OME springs in front and stock height with AAL in the back, and I threw on the 37" MTR's. It wasn't too long after that when I discovered this forum and became addicted to the many trips you guys/girls were taking. Now I'm a little pissed because I wish I was SUA with 33's all over again. Oh well, I'm not going back at this point. My compromise was to go back to "small" 35's.

Now, where I need your help is to decide how I should start my new direction for this build. I have 4.88's to throw in, and was originally going to run ARB's front and rear, but now I am having second thoughts on whether or not this is necessary. I could use that $$$ for something like an Engel or even a decent camera. Problem is, I HATE going axle deep to replace gears and not take the opportunity to throw the lockers in while I'm already there. Should I just put an ARB in the back and call it good? There is a lot of gear I want to get, so I'm trying to prioritize my purchases. I'm basically looking at eventually getting a RTT, fridge/freezer, storage drawers, winch, storage containers, sliders, rear bumper, aux tank, etc.

I value everyone's opinion here and would just like to hear what your first/most important purchases would be. We can leave out the "baseline the vehicle" because it is running perfectly.
 

gillti

Adventurer
Greetings

Great to have you here. You will find a great deal of info here, and a wonderful attitude as well. I'll leave the advice to those with more experience, but Congrats on a great vehicle and finding ExPo!:26_7_2:
 

Hltoppr

El Gringo Spectacular!
Howdy and welcome!

I think you'll find the vast majority of builds here are very mild when compared to the SOA/37" builds you've been involved in. Mostly, it stems from the Overlanding focus of ExPo. Reliability is key when you might have to fix something using some parts and ingenuity available in Tubares, Mexico; custom parts can be difficult to repair in that respect.

So, I guess my advice is to really think how you'll be using the rig, and where you'll be going. I try to not have anything on my rig that can't be fixed in the small towns in Mexico...which means no custom 4-link suspensions, etc.

It might be easier to build a buggy, or the like, to satisfy your needs for a wheelin' rig; while keeping the FJ62 simple for the overlanding stuff...plus...the FJ62 will likely appreciate in value if it is kept closer to stock...

HTH

-H-
 

DBS311

Adventurer
I agree with everything you guys have mentioned, especially on the idea of keeping things as stock as possible. I'm already so past that point that I won't revert back. My '75 Bronco has become my hardcore trail vehicle and my 62 will now pull duty as a camping and exploring rig. With it being built the way it is, I don't ever plan on taking it outside North America. Having a demanding job, a SoCal mortgage, and a wife and two kids doesn't make long trips south of the border that feasible. Granted, I am in San Diego, so jumping across the border for a trip isn't difficult, but I would rather explore the good ole US of A.
 

the dude

Adventurer
I am kinda in the same boat as you. I got all caught up in the hardcore "trail" rig and went too big with my "adventure" rig...but also like you, I am not willing to go back at this point. but I am in the precess of building a crawler, so you never know.

I don't see anything wrong with a bigger expo rig. I just wish I hadn't gone as big. I am a HUGE believer in SOA over SUA Cruisers, even with a moderate tire like a 35. Those springs hanging under the axle catch on everything. I also think the SOA forces you to deal with sub par steering on the OEM toyota parts and it gives a great ride. Just keep it as low as possible using old springs for an Expo rig. I also highly recommend widening your stance.

As for the other stuff, we LOVE our rear drawers and sleeping platform. We can store gear safer, take more with us, be way more organized, and always have a safe place to sleep. I would have done it sooner.

Selectable lockers, I wouldn't give them up for the world. I don't think the wife would either. She got stuck once and asked why only two tires spin in a 4x4, I showed her how to engage the lockers and her comment, "Well, that only makes sense" and she's right. Do it all at once while you are in there.

One of my other favorite upgrades was to my lighting. HO lights with upgrade wiring harness. Another one I should have done sooner.

This year we are also going for all the cool stuff, Engel fridge, 24V OBA, Onboard shower etc. It seems it never ends, no matter what you try!
 

Paul Piazza

New member
I fall in the same catagory. I have a sprung over Jeep and have owned several old Broncos. Infact sold one for my FJ60. The Jeep is my rock rig, and I use the Cruiser for my hunting, exploring and family rig.

I understand your feeling about rock crawling, here in California its becoming more and more like sitting in traffic while some guy tries to make an obsticle until he busts something. (ok enough off my box).

Like others have said enjoy build it as you want to. I love my 60 its great to do expeditions in.

PP
 

ChuckB

Expedition Leader
This may sound crazy, but it may be better to put the money into your 100. A few mods on the Hundy and you'll have a great expo rig.

I'm interested to here what the more experienced board members think.

PS - I'm moving back to San Diego in late August. We'll have to meet up.
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
ChuckB said:
This may sound crazy, but it may be better to put the money into your 100. A few mods on the Hundy and you'll have a great expo rig.

I agree 100%

ChuckB said:
I'm interested to here what the more experienced board members think.

I have had a 60, 80, and now a 100.

I sold my 60 due mainly to the fact that i could not get the suspension dialed in to where i was happy on long bumpy Mex washboard roads and the type of wheeling you are getting ready to built it for.

I tried the following set ups:

-Stock
-Old Man Emu
-SOA with Stock Springs
-SOA with de-arched OME springs
-OME shocks
-Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks.

I just wasnt happy with any of the configurations i tried, so i sold it and bought an 80!

It took me a few configurations but i nailed the 80 suspension pefectly with J's in the front and 864's in the rear. Handled washboards like a porsche and rode like a caddy! :D

I have since sold the 80 (want more power) and am building up the 100. I just got done installing the OME into the 100 and have yet to take it on any washboards, but the ride around town is amazingly improved!

If you already have a 100, i agree with Chuck, put a few $ into it and you will be ready to go anywhere! :safari-rig:
 

DBS311

Adventurer
Chuck and Boston, it's funny that you bring up the 100. I bought it for myself as a daily driver with the idea that one day I would turn it into my expo rig, and my wife complained every day until she drove it home from the dealership for me. Since that time I've only driven it when she lets me. Your basic hostile takeover.......and there is zero chance I can do anything to it while she is driving it.

So, I'm with you on using the 100, but I don't want to get divorced :ar15: and end up using my fun money for child support. As of now, it will have to be the 62.
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
DBS311 said:
Chuck and Boston, it's funny that you bring up the 100. I bought it for myself as a daily driver with the idea that one day I would turn it into my expo rig, and my wife complained every day until she drove it home from the dealership for me. Since that time I've only driven it when she lets me. Your basic hostile takeover.......and there is zero chance I can do anything to it while she is driving it.

So, I'm with you on using the 100, but I don't want to get divorced :ar15: and end up using my fun money for child support. As of now, it will have to be the 62.

My censored reply would be: "Grow A Pair And Build It!" :safari-rig:

:sombrero:
 

DBS311

Adventurer
Boston Mangler said:
My censored reply would be: "Grow A Pair And Build It!" :safari-rig:

:sombrero:

Unfortunately I have to pick and choose my battles with her, and this is one I don't want to start. I'll be fine building the 62 if it keeps her happy and she continues to agree with my spending habits.
 

DBS311

Adventurer
I know you are........it's just that you voiced the internal struggle I've been going through. :littlefriend:

As Ron Burgundy would say, "When in Rome."

Anyway, back to the advice I need. Outside of the gear and locker install, what would you guys list as your top 5 "Gotta have" items for trips lasting a week or more?
 

CaliCruiser

Adventurer
Hmm, I find myself in a very similar situation. My 60 is SOA and I have covered thousands of miles both on and off the pavement in many situations. The long road trips to Death Valley/Pismo Beach/Utah are a little tough, but that is why I am switching to an h55f/toybox combination for some overdrive. Right now I have 35's with 4.88's which I feel is ideal for the foothills and mountains, but a little deep for the highway like I mentioned before. My thought process while building my rig is to blend the long road trips with the 'hardocore' trails across the west. Rubicon/Duzy Ershim/Barret Lake are all on the list for this year. When I originally tore down the axles to regear, I did not have the cash for longfields and ARB's so I just bought an Aussie Locker for $250.00 and improved quite a bit in the traction department. In a perfect world, I would have ARB's front and rear, but man that gets expensive to do at once. Good luck with the decisions!

Dylan
 

kcowyo

ExPo Original
DBS311 said:
...Should I just put an ARB in the back and call it good? There is a lot of gear I want to get, so I'm trying to prioritize my purchases. I'm basically looking at eventually getting a RTT, fridge/freezer, storage drawers, winch, storage containers, sliders, rear bumper, aux tank, etc.

I like an ARB for the rear whenever the budget allows for it. But for trips over multiple evenings, I would probably start with the following -

Sleeping solution - inside, outside, up top, wherever
Storage solution - designed around sleeping accommodations
Fridge or cooler solution - someplace to keep the cold ones cold
Extra fuel - aux tank or jerry cans


Have we had the pleasure of seeing a pic of your 62?

:beer:
 

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