Why are other full size SUV's not used in overlanding/offroading as often as Forerunner/Landcruiser?

[85_Ranger4x4]

It needs to be said though. Especially since people are referring to it as the “full size bronco”, which it’s a far cry from.


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I think they are struggling to find a term to differentiate it from the baby Bronco that is based on an Escape.

 

[phsycle]

I still think they're cool, but just not absolutely required like how it seemed a few years back. They weren't required back then either, but just felt like they were.

They all, for sure, have their place. Some people love and use the crap out of their RTT's. And that's great.

It's just a personal issue I have. I don't want to be associated with "that crowd." I loved to ride my CBR back in the day, over 15 yrs ago. I rode alone 99% of the time, and when I did ride with others, it was with 2 other friends. Never with the whole slew of them doing tricks, causing traffic jams, etc. I hated being seen like one of them so I sold it and never looked back. (Though, I am thinking of picking up a TW200 to bounce around in to get my motorcycle itch scratched).

I see plenty of bedazzled Taco's and 4Runners around. Not as many, but some Raptors and Foresters. All kitted out with *gag*"Overla..."...*gag* gear, all in pristine shape and steps hanging down past the axles. Majority of them do it for style points. If it gets them out, then great. You just won't find me in a grocery store parking lot with the tent open and ditch lights beaming.

This is more my style


Gag


Rant over. Happy Friday 13th.

 

[badm0t0rfinger]

They all, for sure, have their place. Some people love and use the crap out of their RTT's. And that's great.

It's just a personal issue I have. I don't want to be associated with "that crowd." I loved to ride my CBR back in the day, over 15 yrs ago. I rode alone 99% of the time, and when I did ride with others, it was with 2 other friends. Never with the whole slew of them doing tricks, causing traffic jams, etc. I hated being seen like one of them so I sold it and never looked back. (Though, I am thinking of picking up a TW200 to bounce around in to get my motorcycle itch scratched).

I see plenty of bedazzled Taco's and 4Runners around. Not as many, but some Raptors and Foresters. All kitted out with *gag*"Overla..."...*gag* gear, all in pristine shape and steps hanging down past the axles. Majority of them do it for style points. If it gets them out, then great. You just won't find me in a grocery store parking lot with the tent open and ditch lights beaming.

This is more my style
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Rant over. Happy Friday 13th.

You posted a Taco with the same brand bed rack with the same exact setup as my Raptor.

 

[phsycle]

You posted a Taco with the same exact bed rack with the same exact setup as my Raptor.

I was hoping the Domestic section would be Overlan/Tactical/Military-grade proof. Like Covid19, no one is safe. #COVLND-19

 

[calicamper]

Most people doing real time on the road exploring are never noticed and that’s intentional. During my long one location 9 day stay in West Yellowstone our neighbors were typically different every night. Several were folks who do 3-5months a yr all of those people had setups that were “not” Overland advertising worthy. Two were Sienna mini vans with a bed platform, one was a older 100% stock 8 passenger standard length E150 with tinted windows and a whole camper build out inside.
Two were Subaru Outback people with a cheap tent.

The only guy that might have touched Overlanding marketing material was a older stock F150 with BFG tires and a 13ft scamp that he set out a folding solar briefcase. Lol

 

[Todd780]

They all, for sure, have their place. Some people love and use the crap out of their RTT's. And that's great.

It's just a personal issue I have. I don't want to be associated with "that crowd." I loved to ride my CBR back in the day, over 15 yrs ago. I rode alone 99% of the time, and when I did ride with others, it was with 2 other friends. Never with the whole slew of them doing tricks, causing traffic jams, etc. I hated being seen like one of them so I sold it and never looked back. (Though, I am thinking of picking up a TW200 to bounce around in to get my motorcycle itch scratched).

I see plenty of bedazzled Taco's and 4Runners around. Not as many, but some Raptors and Foresters. All kitted out with *gag*"Overla..."...*gag* gear, all in pristine shape and steps hanging down past the axles. Majority of them do it for style points. If it gets them out, then great. You just won't find me in a grocery store parking lot with the tent open and ditch lights beaming.

This is more my style
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Rant over. Happy Friday 13th.

This is pretty much the setup I'd want on a 3/4 ton. I even looked up to see if I could haul an aluminum fishing boat on that ladder rack, lol

 

[nickw]

This has been a fun and interesting thread... I've always been curious about how perspectives change over time and what vehicles folks get drawn towards and also what vehicles trend in certain groups. My current truck is a '92 K1500, regular cab, short bed with a 5.7 TBI and NV4500 5-speed. There are plenty of things I like/dislike about it (as I also did with my similar era Toyota and Nissan) but the one thing that does hold true, as others have mentioned in this thread, is relatively easy/cheap parts availability in the US, Baja and Canada.

For the '92 K1500, it's amazing how inexpensive it is to keep on the road. Parts are so inexpensive and available that it's almost funny. I like knowing in the back of my mind that if the 272k mile original engine (still running strong, knock on wood) throws a rod, that I can have a new long block delivered for $1800 just about anywhere in the continental US and that swapping it out in a pinch is totally doable with a reasonable selection of tools. There are also a scad of them in every junkyard I've ever been to, including in Baja, which is convenient. With that said, it's a GM product of the early '90s. Having spent entirely too much quality time with old farm equipment, this doesn't bother me. For some, it would be a nightmare.

_BUT_ as far as overlanding "cred" goes, it's pretty severely lacking. Not many "cool" parts are available compared to most platforms and you really have to get creative with certain things. I guess with anything in life, it depends on what you're actually doing and where you're actually going with your rig. I have no answers, only questions, lol.

I think the coolest rigs are the ones you don't see often and are not "ideal" for the situation, makes it interesting. Of all the experiences I've had with travelers, the guy that caught my attention the most was off I5 here in Oregon had a early 90's Chevy 1500, long bed, regular cab, 235/85 tires, like (10) of those red plastic (5) gallon gas cans you can get at walmart (not the cool Jerrys), old CB, blanket over the seat, (2) spare tires (one on the front bumper) and homemade wooden boxes in bed for storage....it was not beat to hell, but was obviously well worn. He was on his way up to Alaska, he does the trip multiple times a year and has for what looked liked a long time....I guess he works up there.

Met another guy on the Oregon coast riding his Vincent Black Shadow down to Cali.

The folks out traveling are rarely the ones posting instagram photos and don't have time for social media and drive what they have.

 

[nickw]

They all, for sure, have their place. Some people love and use the crap out of their RTT's. And that's great.

It's just a personal issue I have. I don't want to be associated with "that crowd." I loved to ride my CBR back in the day, over 15 yrs ago. I rode alone 99% of the time, and when I did ride with others, it was with 2 other friends. Never with the whole slew of them doing tricks, causing traffic jams, etc. I hated being seen like one of them so I sold it and never looked back. (Though, I am thinking of picking up a TW200 to bounce around in to get my motorcycle itch scratched).

I see plenty of bedazzled Taco's and 4Runners around. Not as many, but some Raptors and Foresters. All kitted out with *gag*"Overla..."...*gag* gear, all in pristine shape and steps hanging down past the axles. Majority of them do it for style points. If it gets them out, then great. You just won't find me in a grocery store parking lot with the tent open and ditch lights beaming.

This is more my style
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Rant over. Happy Friday 13th.

Amen brother....I see SO many mid-size pickups, name the brand, 33's, fake beadlocks, big front bumper, sometimes a winch, bed rails and a RTT and go-forbid a snorkel. Always on my drive to work, on the hwy. It's so cliche now. I prefer the contractor special 3/4T-1T, low spec, skinny tire, steel rims, long bed and commercial topper...sign me up.

 

[badm0t0rfinger]

I was hoping the Domestic section would be Overlan/Tactical/Military-grade proof. Like Covid19, no one is safe. #COVLND-19

MILSPEC isnt just a recommendation, its a lifestyle.

I love tacti-cool stuff as much as anyone else but I use that stuff at work all time, and my truck is part of my escape from work. Sure I have some molle stuff, some military surplus stuff and chinsy badges or patches, but I use/bought those items over time or because of familiarity from my jobs over the years (submariner, diver, helicopter mechanic, flight engineer). Its a bit different than raiding your nearest army/navy surplus store and cosplaying as a vet.

 

[mep1811]

First of all you would have to define what you consider "overlanding"...are you talking within the US or overseas?

For some of us, it comes from personal experience. I was working in West Africa in the late 90s and we had 'inherited' five(5) Chevy Silverado trucks for our drilling projects in Burkina Faso & Mali. They were only a couple years old, but already falling appart. We had to keep one for spare parts. I got stranded twice with two different trucks after the rear axle broke (between the diff and the hub). One time I had to spend the night in some remote village until I managed to find a guy with a scooter to take me to the first phone so I could call the base to come pick me up...this was before GPS and smart phones...

Then you had these other expats showing up with old beat up Land Cruiser with 500000 km on them and they just kept going and going...it made you jealous..




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I experienced the same in Bolivia. Even though we had Jeeps, Broncos and a Blazer the only trucks that left the camp were the Land Cruisers. Most of the American trucks were broke in some way so they just sat in the motor pool.

 

[phsycle]

I experienced the same in Bolivia. Even though we had Jeeps, Broncos and a Blazer the only trucks that left the camp were the Land Cruisers. Most of the American trucks were broke in some way so they just sat in the motor pool.

I will say though. Jeeps, Broncos, Blazers are all light duty trucks at best. LC’s, I’d consider to be more HD.

 

[Christian P.]

Here are some examples of overland vehicles currently for sale on the planet - this will give a good sample of actual vehicles used by travelers.
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There are some serious deals to be had out there if you can handle the paperwork.

In South Africa for 12500 pounds

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Also in South Africa for 11000 Euro

South Africa for 350000 pounds




In Colombia:

Ford Transit $28000usd

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2000 4Runner in Buenos Aires: $5000


VW Van in Atacama 3500000 pesos




Nissan XTrail in Santiago - $6000usd




Hilux in Santiago $9900usd

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Ford Transit Motorhome (I think): $5000




Lima, Peru- Subaru Outback for $995.

 

[iLikeDonuts]

They all, for sure, have their place. Some people love and use the crap out of their RTT's. And that's great.

It's just a personal issue I have. I don't want to be associated with "that crowd." I loved to ride my CBR back in the day, over 15 yrs ago. I rode alone 99% of the time, and when I did ride with others, it was with 2 other friends. Never with the whole slew of them doing tricks, causing traffic jams, etc. I hated being seen like one of them so I sold it and never looked back. (Though, I am thinking of picking up a TW200 to bounce around in to get my motorcycle itch scratched).

I see plenty of bedazzled Taco's and 4Runners around. Not as many, but some Raptors and Foresters. All kitted out with *gag*"Overla..."...*gag* gear, all in pristine shape and steps hanging down past the axles. Majority of them do it for style points. If it gets them out, then great. You just won't find me in a grocery store parking lot with the tent open and ditch lights beaming.

I get having an issue with people who want to look like something they're not, but I can't wrap my head around getting so worked up over a word.

Overland. Overland. Overland.



Oh sh...

 

[Christian P.]

I get having an issue with people who want to look like something they're not, but I can't wrap my head around getting so worked up over a word.

Overland. Overland. Overland.



Oh sh...

What about the VanLife word? VanLife. VanLife. VanLife

 

[iLikeDonuts]

What about the VanLife word? VanLife. VanLife. VanLife



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