Why not use frozen water bottles for cooler for 2-3 day trips?

jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
Out of curiosity say using bags of ice as it melts do you drain the water out or leave a ice and water mix in cooler?

Unless something is going to get really soggy leave the water in, otherwise that air space created between the ice after draining will heat up quicker than the water you just drained out, physics.
 

jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
Love the idea of frozen bottles of water. And these juice bottles are really strong also. My local stores sell Crystal Geyser "square" bottles that fit my cooler perfectly. You may need to confirm they are not too tall if you use them.

The great thing is they seal much better than the gallon jugs so you can lay them flat and not leak.
 

Airmapper

Inactive Member
I just started using the frozen bottle method this year. I've been using Gatorade bottles since they are tough, but a little awkward in size. In a 26qt cooler though, I don't need anything much larger in there.

My concern with frozen bottles is keeping stuff cold enough, or maybe to say more evenly cold. I like not having water build up in a cooler I can't easily empty, but that water also made for great temperature distribution.

I like having my items on top for easy access but with the bottles I found to keep them feeling cold I really needed to try to shove them to the bottom and get the bottles on top.

I'm thinking in the future I might go the bottle method initially and to help with cool down (I don't have a big enough freezer to pre-chill) and dump regular ice on top maybe after a day or so.
 

CSG

Explorer
My thinking was using water bottles that you're going to drink anyway, not various other containers to freeze water in. The half liter bottles are pretty flexible in how you can fit them in a cooler. Larger containers, not so much.
 

hungwin jza80

New member
I also use Dunkin Donuts Box-o-Joe bags and fill them about 3/4 full before freezing. They last 3-4 days typically.

^This! They're just kinda hard to come by because I can't remember the last time I've bought hot coffee from DD. Cold brew or iced 24/7-365!
 

Modeler

W1DCS
^This! They're just kinda hard to come by because I can't remember the last time I've bought hot coffee from DD. Cold brew or iced 24/7-365!

LOL I grab them from company events when they are about to get thrown away. I've currently got 6-7 in a rotation of being used.
 

GordoSmasho

Observer
A better way is to buy fresh orange juice in plastic or carton 1/2 gallon jugs, open them up, drink a little bit and then freeze the oj jugs solid...

Place the oj jugs (with caps on) in the bottom of the cooler and cover them with ice.

Orange juice has a melting point that is colder that water's melting point, so first the ice melts, then as the oj melts, it re-freezes the ice... and the cooler goes through this melting refreezing process for a while... you will be amazed how long this will last... just make sure your food stuffs don't freeze into the water that gets refrozen...

That is some very cool science i did not know.
 

Robert Bills

Explorer
The ice suppliers don't do block ice anymore. Doesn't melt fast enough thus less ice sold / lower profits.

I haven't had any problems finding blocks of ice for my cooler. Perhaps some small retailers or convenience stores will only carry cubed ice, but every local ice house I have visited has carried block ice and so has every supermarket I have patronized on my journeys.

[I typically pre-chill my cooler with a block of ice the night before a trip, then in the morning before I leave I drain off any melt water and fill with chilled and frozen food, also frozen water bottles, then stop off at my local ice house on the way to the Interstate and buy a bag of cubed ice to fill any voids in my main cooler and fill up my small drink cooler which resides behind the center console. The block ice in the main cooler typically lasts 3-4 days, although I do have to replenish the cubed ice in the drink cooler because it isn't well insulated in comparison to the main cooler - an Ozark Trail "high performance" rotomolded cooler.]

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PS - People tell me that I now qualify as being "old." I've been freezing plastic containers for decades, as have tens of thousands of others, and the practice hasn't injured or killed me or anyone I know or have heard about. Worrying about the release of dioxins from freezing plastic food containers for use in camp coolers strikes me as being overly alarmist and more than a bit ridiculous.
 

Nd4SpdSe

Adventurer, eh?
We've been doing the frozen water bottles for years, when we think enough a heat of time. In a good cooler, we're good for quite a few days, 5-7 days with a 24 of frozen bottles inside. The issue usually is that they don't melt fast enough to use them to drink.
 
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carmad

New member
I use sealable tupperware containers of various sizes, fill them 3/4 full and freeze with the lids off. More space efficient than bottles, and stack nicely melted water can be poured off and used if necessary, no leaking, food does not get wet. Have gone almost a week with really good cooler, and limiting opening of the cooler.
 

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