WreckDiver1321's 2003 Frontier CC SC

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
No adverse effects whatsoever (except that I no longer have power). When I first got my Frontier, the supercharger was destroyed, so I drove it around without for a couple weeks waiting for the new one to come. I did the same thing when I was on a trip to the Seeley Swan Valley and one of the*pulleys decided to crap itself. Pulled the belt off and kept on going. Actually it means the engine has to spin fewer things (AC is on the same belt) so I get better fuel mileage.
 

Allof75

Pathfinder
No adverse effects whatsoever (except that I no longer have power). When I first got my Frontier, the supercharger was destroyed, so I drove it around without for a couple weeks waiting for the new one to come. I did the same thing when I was on a trip to the Seeley Swan Valley and one of the*pulleys decided to crap itself. Pulled the belt off and kept on going. Actually it means the engine has to spin fewer things (AC is on the same belt) so I get better fuel mileage.

Interesting, what's the intake setup that allows it to take in air without the S/C?
 

skibum315

Explorer
Funny you mention the bit about the s/c motor and the earlier Frontiers ... it won't get any better with a 2nd Gen and the VQ40, I suspect. I haven't driven a Frontier, but my DD is an '08 Xterra on 255x85r16 Toyo MTs ... in the slick bit of snow we had this morning (in Denver - ~2" overnight on top of similar temperature drop to what you described ... so, slick); it was exactly as you describe. Judicious use of the right foot is a must ... but I love my tires (they're phenomenal offroad and look great) and wouldn't trade them even though I don't get them dirty as often as they'd like.

I've enjoyed following along on this thread ... appreciate the insight and updates.
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
Funny you mention the bit about the s/c motor and the earlier Frontiers ... it won't get any better with a 2nd Gen and the VQ40, I suspect. I haven't driven a Frontier, but my DD is an '08 Xterra on 255x85r16 Toyo MTs ... in the slick bit of snow we had this morning (in Denver - ~2" overnight on top of similar temperature drop to what you described ... so, slick); it was exactly as you describe. Judicious use of the right foot is a must ... but I love my tires (they're phenomenal offroad and look great) and wouldn't trade them even though I don't get them dirty as often as they'd like.

I've enjoyed following along on this thread ... appreciate the insight and updates.

Toyo MTs are awesome tires. Very good traction in almost every situation. Stupid tough sidewalls too.

Thanks! There is much more to come, so stay tuned!
 

Allof75

Pathfinder
Maybe it's a Nissan tuning thing? All I know is every time it rains here (few and far between unfortunately), I have to be extremely careful on throttle application. Otherwise I'm sliding all over the place, which, while fun and controllable, is particularly frustrating when trying to pull out from a stop light. Or turn at any speed between 0 and 30. Bizarre tuning that encourages sliding, I like it. :smiley_drive:
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
Sadly, no bumper yet. Still rocking the ARB for now.

Okay, so I decided to escape to the mountains for a few hours of wheeling on Sunday. Unfortunately I didn't bring my camera with me, but I was able to snap a couple of phone pics, which I unfortunately can't upload due to the fact that I'm essentially in a brick bunker with god-awful cell reception and terrible wifi.

But what I can tell you is I had a lot of fun. I once again tried to make my way up Hellroaring Road outside Red Lodge, MT: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=hellroaring+road+montana&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&ie=UTF-8&ei=Gd2UUoSRNYn5oASMkYGoBA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

I tried going up a couple of months ago, but I turned around near the half way mark because I had forgotten to grab a tire iron. Well, I figured another try was in order. I knew there would be snow, I just didn't really know how much. I was interested to see how much there was and how well my tires did in actual deep snow. I actually made it a little farther up the road this time than I did a couple of months ago when it was dry! About a foot of snow pack halted my forward progress, though. I think I'm going to order some chains and try again later, see how much farther I can go. I did learn a couple things.

1) My tires work fantastically in deeper snow. However, when it gets to be more densely packed, they keep digging through the snow, not floating, which would be ideal. In powder, soft snow, or slush, they are great pretty much up to the bumper. In packed snow, about 12 inches is the limit. In that situation a wider tire would be much more effective. I think chains would go a long way towards fixing this, as well as the locker I plan for later on. If I could bomb through about 15-18 inches of packed snow without too much of a problem, I'd be really happy.

2) I have these tracks that I made from PSP (pierced steel plank) about a year ago. I chopped them down to a better size and then had them powder coated bright orange. They work alright, but once I got into snow deeper than a foot, I started needing to take a run at them to make it work. The problem is they're too smooth. I literally did burnouts on them trying to grab some traction. Plus, they're heavy to move and get really cold after being in the snow. I'm thinking I need to invest in some MaxTrax. Yes, they're expensive, but how quickly they can get you out of a sticky situation makes them worth their weight in gold to me.

Other than that, the truck performed flawlessly. It was a lot of fun. The mountains are beautiful in the winter. Getting up into that area is just a blast. My GF and I plan to give it another go later on this winter. We're going to drive as far as we can, then strap on some snowshoes and finish walking to the top.

Pics to come soon!
 

Co-opski

Expedition Leader
chains on all 4 wheels and 4-low, our trucks will dig through most snow, I've encountered. Just chains on the front wheels is a drastic improvement if your going for tractor like handling.
 
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wreckdiver1321

Overlander
chains on all 4 wheels and 4-low, our trucks will did through most snow, I've encountered. Just chains on the front wheels is a drastic improvement if your going for tractor like handling.

Hmmm sounds like I'll be ordering some chains soon. :)

Here's the pics from Sunday:


The view just before the snow got too deep.




This is just before where we turned around.


She likes taking funny pictures. :)

On a sad note, just got off the phone with Rugged Rocks. There was a delay, and my bumper got shipped out from NJ yesterday. So it'll be a bit yet. Oh well.
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
quit driving around the Montana wilderness with my ARB, sheesh :sombrero:

any leads on selling it yet?
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
quit driving around the Montana wilderness with my ARB, sheesh :sombrero:

any leads on selling it yet?

You'd have me drive around bumperless?! You selfish man, you.

Not yet. I'm hoping soon. There's a guy near me who owns a lifted X. I've thought of just going and knocking on his door. "Hey, want an ARB bumper?" :D
 

mortonm

Expedition Leader
You'd have me drive around bumperless?! You selfish man, you.

Not yet. I'm hoping soon. There's a guy near me who owns a lifted X. I've thought of just going and knocking on his door. "Hey, want an ARB bumper?" :D

a little creepy but the worse he can do is say no, haha.
 

wreckdiver1321

Overlander
a little creepy but the worse he can do is say no, haha.

Just you watch, I'll do it and he'll be all over it.

On an unrelated note, anybody have any recommedations on snow chains? Rugged Rocks sells some from SCC, but I've seen dozens of designs elsewhere. No idea what I should get.
 

stioc

Expedition Leader
Good review on your tire experience. I'm a total noob when it comes to snow or winter driving but I'm placing my faith (leap of faith? lol) in Co-Opski and Mortonm's choice on tires. If the skinny ATs work for them I'm sure they're ok for most of us too.

I do have the SCC Z tire cables (not real chains) but only a pair. I recently read somewhere that having chains on only one axle of a 4WD places a lot of strain on the transaxle? Is that true? I can see the wheel diameter changing slightly which in turn changes the gear ratio front to back I guess?
 

Co-opski

Expedition Leader
Just you watch, I'll do it and he'll be all over it.

On an unrelated note, anybody have any recommedations on snow chains? Rugged Rocks sells some from SCC, but I've seen dozens of designs elsewhere. No idea what I should get.

I just got mine from AutoZone or Orielly's but they were a common tire chain up here (Glacier Chain with a v bar) everyone caries them up here, shops like 6 Rob Lees, ect. The v bar is tack welded to the chain links in the part of the chain that is under the tire and it gives more bite into the ice. It takes some time learning to put them on, but once you got it you can put them on in under 20min. Drive some and tighten them up again with the rubber bungees (they do get hard and don't stretch when 0 deg f or colder). That is all I got.

BTW wish you were knocking on my door asking if I wanted a screaming deal on an ARB. Road trip on your winter break?

I recently read somewhere that having chains on only one axle of a 4WD places a lot of strain on the transaxle? Is that true? I can see the wheel diameter changing slightly which in turn changes the gear ratio front to back I guess?
I could see this as true. I only went about 5 city blocks to do a scetchy recovery and didn't want to spend the extra time to chain up the rear. many old chevy and ford plow trucks up here only run the fronts for extra pull in crud and increased steering and braking. Chained up I only go 20-25 mph tops but I'm known to run 65 and 70 and never take it out of 4-hi for 5 months.
 
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