80 or 100

[spressomon]

LATCH is a Child Car Seat attachment system. I believe, it's standard on 2000+ 100's.

Ah-ha! No wonder I didn't know what it was! :ylsmoke: Thanks for cluing me in Les!

 

[Pskhaat]

LATCH is a Child Car Seat attachment system. I believe, it's standard on 2000+ 100's.

2001+ I believe.

 

[jgolden]

I guess I should have known that one......

 

[hoser]

Oh yes, 2001+. That's what I was thinking but some how my fingers typed the wrong year.

 

[Pskhaat]

Oh yes, 2001+. That's what I was thinking but some how my fingers typed the wrong year.

Wonder why however Toyota only put in two (2) LATCH seats in a six (6) rear-passenger vehicle. I might as well ask why Toyota didn't give us a manual tranny option either, eh?

 

[hoser]

Are there 6 seatbelts back there? I thought there was only 5? Haven't used the 3rd row in awhile.

Apparently most Americans don't have more than 2 kids under 8 years of age because the 2008 LC only has two LATCHES as well.

 

[Pskhaat]

Are there 6 seatbelts back there? I thought there was only 5? Haven't used the 3rd row in awhile.

Yep, the 80 only had 5 but the Hundy has 3 seat belts in the 3rd row.

Apparently most Americans don't have more than 2 kids under 8 years of age because the 2008 LC only has two LATCHES as well.

Apparently, but one would think that Toy would want at least to allow their customers to choose where said 2 children would sit :O

 

[Redline]

Yeah Scott, where the heck are the manual trannys (my 4Runner too)? Should I hold my breath for their reintroduction? :jump:

Wonder why however Toyota only put in two (2) LATCH seats in a six (6) rear-passenger vehicle. I might as well ask why Toyota didn't give us a manual tranny option either, eh?

 

[Pskhaat]

where the heck are the manual trannys

Good man! I don't care what anyone says, I can achieve not only much better MPG with my own shift points, but have more control especially in uphill driving. Last thing one needs on a loaded or slippery upslope is automatic gear hunting. Plus, it is a lot easier to play the torque curve.

I don't do enough `rock-crawling' or lazy driving to benefit from the slushboxen.

 

[ChuckB]

As we discussed in my 80 manual tranny thread, I would love to have a manual 80!! That is probably the biggest thing steering me toward an Xterra or Taco or JK. Please just give us the option Toyota!!!!

 

[hoser]

I'll put in my request for an SMG transmission. Yeah, give me one of those and make it a 6 speed.

 

[Redline]

Not to get too far off topic, but I guess it relates to the 80 vs 100 theme as neither offers the option of a manual gear-grinder...

My V8 4Runner is the first vehicle I willingly/intentionally purchased with an auto tranny since 1995 when I briefly owned a '95 Dodge/Cummins that I ordered with an A/T. I chose an automatic in 1995 because the '93 Dodge/Cummins w/5-speed I owned gave me clutch engagement 'issues'. The 1995 was a "Lemon" that Chrysler purchased back from me after several months of ownership (less miles). I went back to manuals in 1996 with a new F350 5-speed. I’m still happy with it.

Prior to this the only automatic tranny 4x4s I owned were a new 1987 Dodge 1/2-ton I leased on impulse as a young kid (a mistake), and a 1978 International Scout II, super clean and stock, I purchased in 1994 that my wife drove as her car for a few years.

Like the Land Cruisers, the 4Runner only offered an auto, if I wanted the car that is what I had to take. As A/Ts go it is a very good one and my lower gears now make it much better off highway, but I do miss the control of a clutch. My 2005 Jeep Rubicon had a 6-speed that I loved. Though when I started test driving Toyotas I didn't care for the way the current 6-speed and clutched worked together in the Tacoma I drove. In my opinion the 6-speed has poor 'feel' and engagement, and I might still pick the A/T in a 4Runner if a manual was available as I didn't care for the current 6-speed.

Good man! I don't care what anyone says, I can achieve not only much better MPG with my own shift points, but have more control especially in uphill driving. Last thing one needs on a loaded or slippery upslope is automatic gear hunting. Plus, it is a lot easier to play the torque curve.

I don't do enough `rock-crawling' or lazy driving to benefit from the slushboxen.

 

[BigJim]

100"s

I have only wheeled with 100's twice. Both times the owners broke "stuff" on the front wheels. This required out team to stop and dissassemble OEM components requiring the vehicle owners to be hauled by straps by the 80's in the group. ON TWO DIFFERENT MILD WHEELING TRIPS.

mY .02

Alvaro. Thanks for the invite. And no, I won't be there. And if I were to come I'd bring the 80. If I had a Jeep Wrangler I'd bring it over the 80.

Your responses almost always come back to the Rubicon Trail. Dude....that's ONE trail. One. A trail a stock Wrangler can complete because of it's small size. In fact, a stock Wrangler would SPANK an 80 on the 'Con. This has been proven over and over again! That doesn't make it better OVERALL than an 80. So yes, the 100 is at a disadvantage on that ONE trail. I've never disputed that.

What you forget or do not want to acknowledge my friend is that for 95% of the trails we run in our wagons, the 100 can hang 100% with an 80 which negates it's slight added capabilites over the 100.

So, if you want to start a thread about "Rubicon in an 80 or 100" or "Blanca Peak in an 80 or 100" you won't see my posts touting the 100. For the other 95% of the trails you will. The 100 will do them just fine, will last forever like the 80, though afford the driver all the fine improvements the 100 brings to the table.

And for those newbies reading....if you plan to wheel your 100, do upgrade the front diff to an ARB ASAP. What you read about the 100 front-end being fragile and wheeling will take a toll? That's plain bull as time has shown. If it were not true we wouldn't see folks building and wheeling their 100's like mad since prices have dropped. They'd gravitate to another platform that held up to the task. OBJECTIVE! HONEST! Get rid of the agenda!

 

[ShottsCruisers]

I have only wheeled with 100's twice. Both times the owners broke "stuff" on the front wheels. This required out team to stop and dissassemble OEM components requiring the vehicle owners to be hauled by straps by the 80's in the group. ON TWO DIFFERENT MILD WHEELING TRIPS.

mY .02

I know what you're getting at Jim. You're vaque statement however is quite misleading to newbies. Please expand the information for the newbies. Thanks!

 

[GeoRoss]

Yep, the 80 only had 5 but the Hundy has 3 seat belts in the 3rd row.


Apparently, but one would think that Toy would want at least to allow their customers to choose where said 2 children would sit :O

93-94 has three seatbelts in the third row.