AEV Brute Double Cab

[Dendy Jarrett]

I'll also add that in the 130, there is almost no room for legs. I had a friend with one, and his kids in car seats were miserable because their legs were into the backs of the front seats.
So, I am sure better to have the passenger leg room verses the cargo room.
D

 

[Dan Grec]

A standard shipping container is 7'10" tall inside. No problem even for a JKU with a 4.5" suspension and 37's!

See dimensions here: http://www.foreign-trade.com/reference/ocean.cfm

Don't forget, it has to go in through the door:
STANDARD 20'

DOOR HEIGHT 7'6" 2.28 m

And courtesy of Sven we know the height of a JKU with 35s, 4 inch lift, rack and spare on roof:
"it's about 240 cm - 94" to the top of the spare cans"

which means it won't go through the door without taking stuff off the roof and/or letting a good amount of air out of the tires.

-Dan

 

[Dan Grec]

The JKU's back area is not as long as the back area of a Defender 110 - the Jeep is nearly a foot shorter overall and much shorter in the back area unfortunately.

It would be interesting to know the distance from the rear of the driver's seat to the rear door... I doubt if I could sleep in there...

I was wondering that too when sitting inside my friend's 110 (from the pic)
so I got someone to measure for me:
66" from the inside wall of the tailgate to the rear of the front drivers seat (seat fully to the rear)
42" interior height of hardtop to floor at rear cargo area
59" cargo area width from inside edge of "bedrail to bedrail"
61" interior hardtop width from window to window
43" cargo area width between rear fenders
36.5" cargo area width at factory subwoofer
47" width of factory rollbar at rear cargo area
36" height of factory rollbar from cargo floor.

Edit: These measurements taken on an '08 JK Unlimited X w/ hardtop and all factory panels, carpets, seats, etc in place.

It was roughly 5cm lower and narrower and a solid 15cm shorter in the bed than the 2001 110. If figure if I'm going to sleep in it at 6'2", I'll put a fold-and-tumble seat from a 2 door in the front passenger side and make something that folds up to get the extra length.

 

[jeep-N-montero]

Jeep made all kinds of vehicles back in the day, 1/2 ton and 3/4 trucks, wagons, forward controls to name a few. It would be great so see Jeep get back into the truck market. Hell, the newest Jeep truck out there is 20 years old, and the newest 3/4 ton Jeep truck is what 26 years old?

I was referring to the Wrangler, as it's the only thing I consider a Jeep anymore.

 

[JPK]

.... It will be interesting to learn if the cargo capacity of the Brute is increased over the Jeep Unlimited. I'd also like to know if AEV chose Dana 44 or Dana 60 axles.

I wonder if AEV is delaying the start of production to mid-2012 so they can incorporate the VM Motori V6 diesel. This 3.0L motor produces 400 ft-lbs of torque. Chrysler is planning to put this diesel under the hood of the Grand Cherokee for the 2013 model year, and the EPA certification will need to be complete about mid-2012!

I have an AEV Jeep, a JKUR, with their 4.5" suspension on it and my wife has an almost stock JKUR. The AEV Jeep can carry a whole hell of a lot more weight than the oem Jeep.

Now "a whole hell of a lot" might not be a great description of the added weight carrying ability, but until I'm carrying all of the weight of the steel AEV bumpers, a winch, a small Engel fridge full of beer, a roof rack, an auxilliary tank with 18gals of fuel, the Hemi, a 37" spare tire, a small tool set, some basic recovery gear, a full set of aluminum skids, cram the cargo area with as much hunting gear as it will take - rifles, shotguns, ammo, waders, etc, etc ...., add 600lbs of passengers and driver and then hang 550lbs of hitch hauler and load in the rear receiver it's fine. That load was a bit too much, but not a lot too much.

I'm guessing the bed adds more than a ittle weight. If so, I hope AEV adds a set of stiffer rear springs to their line to give the DC the same weight carrying ability as a JKU with their suspension.

As far as axles, the front looks like a Dynatrac ProRock D44, which can be had pleny stout enough. Maybe a D60 in the rear would be helpful, but I would take the oem Rubicon rear D44 and see how it lasts.

I know guys love the diesel idea, but my experience with diesels is that they are way more trouble than they are worth for the US. More money to acquire, more maintenance and the money for it, and more trouble than a modern gas engine. Give me a 5.7VVT and the extra 18gals of the Long Ranger auxilliary tank, the AEV tire carrier fuel tank for a reserve or for a generator and I'll be as happy as can be with an over the road range running from ~450 miles to over 600miles depending on terrain and speed and an off road range of over 350 miles. (Mmileage and range numbers from my 5.7 AEV JKU, I'd think they'd be similar enough for the DC with the 5.7.)

JPK

 

[JPK]

Don't forget, it has to go in through the door:
STANDARD 20'

DOOR HEIGHT 7'6" 2.28 m

And courtesy of Sven we know the height of a JKU with 35s, 4 inch lift, rack and spare on roof:
"it's about 240 cm - 94" to the top of the spare cans"

which means it won't go through the door without taking stuff off the roof and/or letting a good amount of air out of the tires.

-Dan

HAHA! Mine would fit, but only short stuff on the roof rack, I think! I will try to measure mine with and without the roof rack tonight.

 

[Dendy Jarrett]

And if there has not been enough drool worthy pictures posted here- Check out the pics on this link:

http://jalopnik.com/5854971/aev-brute-double-cab-more-photos/gallery/1

D

 

[Wilbur]

All I can say is I'm speechless! AEV just always makes me drool.

I have to say if I had the cash, I'd be calling today to be put on the list. They offer something all of us would love.

 

[bobDog]

Jeep made all kinds of vehicles back in the day, 1/2 ton and 3/4 trucks, wagons, forward controls to name a few. It would be great so see Jeep get back into the truck market. Hell, the newest Jeep truck out there is 20 years old, and the newest 3/4 ton Jeep truck is what 26 years old?

I saw one of those forward cab trucks going the other way a few weeks back....realized i really screwed up when they were sitting around in backyards 25 years ago and I didn't get one!:coffeedrink:

 

[Hilldweller]

Why the antagonism Black ZJ?

I've noticed that he's just like that sometimes.
He's not looking to make new friends. Doesn't need them. Nope.

Rams/Power Wagons are fat pigs, sorry.

 

[upcruiser]

Rams/Power Wagons are fat pigs, sorry. Hmmm, I wonder if they will offer this new diesel engine in the Dakota? Now that could open some new opportunities....

Sure.... If you want to rock crawl, but I think most folks here are beyond that mentality and either have a rig for that or don't care for that to begin with. For the stuff that 90% of the folks do on this forum, a Power Wagon would work great. Much smaller than a dedicated rv style overland rig, you pop a FWC on one and you literally are good to go. I think some folks miss the point of some of these vehicles. AEV isn't trying to build rock crawlers either, though they are pretty adept at it for a vehicle that drives and handles so well plus has the benefit of a Chrysler factory waranty. Yeah alot of folks here are pumped on them. They aren't some Billy Bob's shop creation but a fully engineered vehicle that is actually comfortable to drive, good handling, and competent in alot of areas. Alot of people have these romantic notions of driving some old iconic, or perhaps overbuilt beast on a long trip somewhere but in reality the day to day discomfort and hassles are overlooked. To me, an overland rig should first and foremost be a comfortable place to spend alot of time in.

 

[cnynrat]

^^ Exactly.

 

[trump]

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Well put!

 

[haven]

"The AEV Jeep can carry a whole hell of a lot more weight than the oem Jeep."

There's a difference between "can carry" and "is rated to carry." The official weight rating includes the performance of the brakes and suspension. Vehicles have cargo ratings to ensure safety.

Get in an accident with a vehicle carrying more than the cargo rating, and watch your insurance company wave good-bye!

 

[Dan Grec]

... Alot of people have these romantic notions of driving some old iconic, or perhaps overbuilt beast on a long trip somewhere but in reality the day to day discomfort and hassles are overlooked.

(emphasis mine)
Time I'm time again I'm shocked to see people talk about building an "overland" rig with 37s, 4.5 inch lift, etc. etc. that gets something like 12-14mpg and has a range of maybe 250 miles. I wonder how many of those people have ever taken them out of their own country? or on an extended 6-12 month trip? (not to mention a solid 24-48 month overland journey).

I have to remember a lot of people go "overlanding" around a couple of states where they are never more than 115 miles from a mcdonalds, and probably similar to a NAPA and overnight parts.
Everyone has a different "dream rig" in mind, I guess.

-Dan