Front recovery Disco I

[michaels]

Nice! And people wonder why Rover dudes have a bad rep!

i've never heard of rover "dudes" having a bad rep. sure there may be a few burnt cookies in the batch. i only say that because i've only every seen those awesome hooks on jeeps.

brainless the statement may have been, but don't tell me you don't see tons of jeeps using them. in fact, the majority of times i've seen them are on jeeps. it inferior to what you could be using. recovery is the last thing i would skimp on. i had no front recovery points, so i spent over a grand on a good bumper with excellent recovery points, as well as departure angle. i then use shackles rated at some 4.5 tons and use a kinetic energy strap. the worst stucks i've ever been a front recovery was the only option.

what if it were at an extreme angle, the strap slipped off, and your truck rolled side over side down a hill? that scenario may not be common, but completely possible.

moral: buy a good recovery point. you'll be glad you spent an extra fifty to 100 bucks.

 

[Storz]

Thanks for all of the replies and information, I am going to go with two Jate rings up front.

Just out of curiosity it was suggested to attach the tow strap "basket style" can someone explain what that is?

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Not the safest solution, as anything attached could easily become detached.

Anything welded could easily become unwelded.

I've never really got this line of thinking.

 

[Yorker]

Anything welded could easily become unwelded.

I've never really got this line of thinking.

He meant that with a hook the strap can easily come off. you have to use extra attention when using hooks because of this, the little metal keepers help but there are a lot of vehicles out there that don't have them.

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Also there are JATE rings and there are JATE rings some are better than others, or at least different- they have been hashed over ad nauseum elsewhere:
http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php?t=114354&highlight=jate+bolt

 

[michaelgroves]

Just out of curiosity it was suggested to attach the tow strap "basket style" can someone explain what that is?

I think it just means using a bridle on both Jate rings? In any case, a bridle attached to both is always the best method where possible. (Make sure the bridle is long, else it will bend the chassis members inwards).

 

[grobinson]

He meant that with a hook the strap can easily come off. you have to use extra attention when using hooks because of this, the little metal keepers help but there are a lot of vehicles out there that don't have them.

You got it

 

[Storz]

Anywhere in the state to purchase a bridle? I've searched online and haven't found anything, are they called something else on this side of hte pond

 

[AndrewP]

Here are some. I'm surprised the hardware isn't better.


http://www.landroverstuff.com/jaterings.htm

 

[Storz]

Here are some. I'm surprised the hardware isn't better.


http://www.landroverstuff.com/jaterings.htm

Thanks for the link on the Jate rings, I was actually asking though about a V-Bridle available somewhere in the states that doens't have metal hooks on the end...

 

[UofRichmondRover]

Thanks for the link on the Jate rings, I was actually asking though about a V-Bridle available somewhere in the states that doens't have metal hooks on the end...

a tree strap could work

 

[Alaska Mike]

i've never heard of rover "dudes" having a bad rep. sure there may be a few burnt cookies in the batch. i only say that because i've only every seen those awesome hooks on jeeps.

Rover owners are known as elitist snobs among the North American 4x4 community, for what it's worth. Right or wrong, that's the perception. Perpetuating the "Rover snob" stereotype makes about as much sense as... I don't know... making derogatory comments about Jeep forums.

I've seen tow hooks on pretty much all types of 4x4 vehicles- including Land Rovers. I don't have them on my Jeep, as I prefer clevis-type rings. I did have them on my Jeep at one time, and never had the type of strap damage mentioned. I did have the retention clips, and made sure to check positioning during mutiple tugs. A tow hook is a tool, and can be used or misused.

Jeep installed them from the factory on my '00 TJ. While they weren't the finest recovery point available, they were provided. How many manufacturers install front (or even rear) recovery points on their consumer vehicles? Not many.

Jate rings have their limitations. They can be buried rather easily, sitting on the bottom of the frame as they do. However, they are a great option for a recovery point if you aren't willing to cough up the dough for HD bumpers front and rear.

If you don't want to run them 24/7, you can just carry a pair in your recovery bag and install them when needed. You can cap the mounting holes so they don't get filled with mud (or ice) when you need them most. A short 20' tow strap would make a decent bridle, and be more versatile than your standard tree saver.

moral: buy a good recovery point. you'll be glad you spent an extra fifty to 100 bucks.

There I couldn't agree more.

 

[Hank]

This is funny.

 

[michaelgroves]

If you don't want to run them 24/7, you can just carry a pair in your recovery bag and install them when needed. You can cap the mounting holes so they don't get filled with mud (or ice) when you need them most.

I'm scratching my head wondering why you might want to carry them in a recovery bag, rather than having them mounted?!

 

[michaelgroves]

This is funny.

What's that about, Hank?

 

[Storz]

I like the tree strap or even 20' strap for use as a bridle, that and some shackles should work well.

I will mount the Jate rings permenantly (or at least leave them on the truck all the time) and just affix the bridle assembly prior to going out on the trail, and have it attached to the bumper/hood somewhere so that if I do get stuck in something deep I dont have to go swimming to get to it.

Thanks for all the ideas and I'll post up pictures of the set up once its all said and done!