Front recovery Disco I

[Alaska Mike]

I'm scratching my head wondering why you might want to carry them in a recovery bag, rather than having them mounted?!

If you're just going to buy two, it would save you the trouble of dismounting them in the case that they are on the wrong end of the vehicle when you get stuck. The best choice would be to buy four and leave them mounted, but it's not always practical for someone on a budget.

 

[Storz]

If you're just going to buy two, it would save you the trouble of dismounting them in the case that they are on the wrong end of the vehicle when you get stuck. The best choice would be to buy four and leave them mounted, but it's not always practical for someone on a budget.

Ahh I see where you're coming from now, I actually have a good recovery point in the rear already though. Shackle mounted in the 2" factory receiver hitch.

Just like this

 

[bovw]

If you're just going to buy two, it would save you the trouble of dismounting them in the case that they are on the wrong end of the vehicle when you get stuck. The best choice would be to buy four and leave them mounted, but it's not always practical for someone on a budget.

I like to leave them in a bag so that I can unscrew the pin when I need to. I sold a ARB recently with one shackle on it the I couldn't get off. I don't feel it's that much trouble to get them out if needed, and I do have 3 in the truck. Earlier this month one of the guys on a trail ride stayed in a hotel overnight, and a shackle was missing in the morning. Just another reason to keep them in IMHO.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

What's that about, Hank?

Trolling

 

[michaelgroves]

I like to leave them in a bag so that I can unscrew the pin when I need to. I sold a ARB recently with one shackle on it the I couldn't get off. I don't feel it's that much trouble to get them out if needed, and I do have 3 in the truck. Earlier this month one of the guys on a trail ride stayed in a hotel overnight, and a shackle was missing in the morning. Just another reason to keep them in IMHO.

Shackles, I can understand not leaving on the vehicle. But Jate rings need to be fitted with tools, and what's more, they can be quite fiddly to fit even when the truck's not up to the chassis in something horrible. But Mike's explanation of having only two, so keeping them in a bag for front/rear as needed makes a bit of sense.

 

[bovw]

Shackles, I can understand not leaving on the vehicle. But Jate rings need to be fitted with tools, and what's more, they can be quite fiddly to fit even when the truck's not up to the chassis in something horrible. But Mike's explanation of having only two, so keeping them in a bag for front/rear as needed makes a bit of sense.

Didn't have Jate rings on my mind there, those I would leave on the truck.

 

[Antichrist]

http://www.4x4now.com/sf0100.htm

Wow!
Just goes to show, anyone can publish anything on the internet.
I hope I'm never around that guy, or anyone who uses what they "learned" there, when he's doing a recovery.

 

[Storz]

Where is a good place to read up on proper recovery, it's hard sometime to sort through all the garbage.

 

[Antichrist]

I like the tree strap or even 20' strap for use as a bridle, that and some shackles should work well.

I'd use two straps to make a bridle (kept to a 60 degree angle or less) rather than one strap. The sharp bend you'd have in a single strap isn't good.
Here are some figures you can use as a base (starting a table 21)
http://www.osha.gov/dsg/guidance/slings/tables-figures.html

Good choice on the Jate Rings.

 

[Michael Slade]

Nice! And people wonder why Rover dudes have a bad rep!

That's funny because it's true...(mostly). :sombrero:

Jate rings front, reciever hitch shackle rear. Save your pennies for a stout bumper in the future.

 

[Storz]

I'd use two straps to make a bridle (kept to a 60 degree angle or less) rather than one strap. The sharp bend you'd have in a single strap isn't good.
Here are some figures you can use as a base (starting a table 21)
http://www.osha.gov/dsg/guidance/slings/tables-figures.html

Good choice on the Jate Rings.

Excellent idea Thanks for the link. I just ordered two of the forged Jate rings, they come with grade 8 hardware as well, should be here in a few days

What is the best method of attaching the strap to the jate ring? A shackle?

 

[Hank]

Trolling

Trolling? Really?

What's better, a hook or a Jate Ring.... Is it even really debatable?

 

[grobinson]

Where is a good place to read up on proper recovery, it's hard sometime to sort through all the garbage.

Your best bet, IMO, is to get out with a good group who are experienced in off-roading and so forth. I'd search for a group in your area, and possibly ask them if they would be willing to do a recovery session. I'm sure more than one person would benefit from something like this.

CROC (Carolina Rover Owners Club) may be a group to investigate in, as you're in NC.

 

[Storz]

CROC (Carolina Rover Owners Club) may be a group to investigate in, as you're in NC.

I actually just joined CROC two weeks ago, we have a trail maintenace day sometime in January, so I am sure there will be plenty of people around to show me a few things.

 

[Alaska Mike]

Wow!
Just goes to show, anyone can publish anything on the internet.
I hope I'm never around that guy, or anyone who uses what they "learned" there, when he's doing a recovery.

Harry Lewellyn has been around forever, and has been published in several major 4x4 magazines in the states. Do I agree with some of what is put forth in the article? No, but I wouldn't call it completely worthless. A lot of what he covers comes from his experiences leading new off-pavement travellers on trips. They rarely come prepared to be extracted. Given the choice, I doubt very seriously he would use a chain to tug anyone out, or use vehicle hold-down holes as a recovery point. However, you work with what you have. I've done the same with car-in-a-snowdrift recoveries, although I usually use my winch instead of resorting to a chain and towstrap. Chains scare me. They're like a hundred little projectiles waiting to fly.

May I suggest the following (from our host):
Getting UNStuck with Bill Burke
4x4 Recovery Skills
4x4 Driving, by Tom Sheppard

...or for you, Antichrist:
Shifting into 4WD, by Harry Lewellyn