If you had to sell one?

[calamaridog]

I think you're saying the same thing I am. I said to sell the 100. I assume that's what you mean when you say a good condition 80 will be worth more in 10 years, you are also saying that he should sell the 100 now. Correct?

A 100 will definitely sell for more than an 80 of comparable condition right now. Down the road who knows...

What I'm saying is that a 98-99 isn't worth all that much right now either. 80's in good condition can really fetch a premium price. In 10 years I suspect the 80 will be worth twice as much as the 100. Maybe I'm nuts

 

[blupaddler]

As much as I hate to utter this...sell the 80...
Or sell the 100. Install a turbo, and buy a trailer. :chowtime:



Or else soon you're gonna need a that big Excursion.

















Good luck with your decision. I am glad I don't have to consider selling my 80, yet.

 

[Wanderlusty]

What did you decide?

 

[AndrewP]

Keep the 80. Lots of trucks around similar to the 100 series if you want to go back that direction. ie 100s, 200s, Tahoes, Exdeditions, Durangos etc.

The 80 is unique, and was shipped with much better stuff than it needed to be for the USA market. FF axles, SFA and decent power (very decent if you've ever owned a 60!) It's a good mix. It's also very friendly to mods/builds etc.

I like 100s just fine, but if I were forced to choose one, it would have to be the 80 as the best mix of old school Land Cruiser capability/durability with new school power (hey, drive a 60!).

For the wife and kids--Minivan no question. It's bigger, faster, handles better, gets better fuel economy and costs less. We're on our 3rd.

 

[Pskhaat]

For the wife and kids--Minivan no question. It's bigger, faster, handles better, gets better fuel economy and costs less. We're on our 3rd.

It's actually the wife that demands no Minivan! I want one, seriously. Though it's still very had to justify the price of purchase of anything else. I may consider going down to just 1 LC period.

 

[Wanderlusty]

It's actually the wife that demands no Minivan! I want one, seriously. Though it's still very had to justify the price of purchase of anything else. I may consider going down to just 1 LC period.

My wife also has an anti-minivan bias. But so do I. I can't think you give up all THAT much with a SUV compared to a minivan.

So...your dreams and ponderances on a domestic full size...what't your current inclination?

 

[Pskhaat]

what't your current inclination?

Surviving the next year with a travel job, 3 kids with an infant at home with the wife.

 

[kcowyo]

....with an infant at home....

So subtle.....eepwall:

 

[AndrewP]

I can't think you give up all THAT much with a SUV compared to a minivan.

I love minivans so take what I say with a grain of salt.

I also love Land Cruisers and have 3 working ones at the moment with plans for a new project.

Believe it or not, a Toyota Sienna minivan has 50% MORE interior room than a 100 series Land Cruiser. There is no contest. The minivan will swallow way more stuff at a time-whether its people and gear, a Home Depot load, dogs, kids etc. Plus I have carried parts for my Cruisers in the minivan, way more than I have carried minivan parts in my Cruisers. Think about it.

It's just plain roomy. I have carried five 6+ foot water polo players plus all their gear for a 4 day tournament to Southern California. We were all comfortable. Try that in a Land Cruiser.

A minivan is economical. At best, an 80 or 100 series Land Cruiser will get 14mpg on the highway. The worst I have ever seen in our Sienna is 25, it's usually more like 27. It definitely will lower your carbon footprint, if that's important to you.

Repairs-I don't know how often Siennas need to be repaired. I'll post up when the first one is needed.(40k miles and counting)

Purchase price-For the $30k of a 4 year old Cruiser with 60-70k miles, you could get a very nice and well equipt brand new Sienna with -0- miles.

Safety-The minivan is much safer, and much less prone to rollover in accidents. My wife was hit at 45mph by an old man running a red light. It totalled the van, she walked away. That was the end of Sienna #1.

Handling, a minivan is no race car, but it isn't plagued with body roll like all big SUVs. It's basically a Camry at heart and handles like one.

So what do you give up? A lot!

One of each is an excellent combination.

 

[Desertdude]

Are you sure your not moonlighting as a high end Mini van salesmen

With a rap like that, you have me almost convinced that I need one :bowdown:

The "Caddillac of mini vans" :safari-rig:

 

[AndrewP]

Are you sure your not moonlighting as a high end Mini van salesmen

With a rap like that, you have me almost convinced that I need one :bowdown:

The "Caddillac of mini vans" :safari-rig:

Ha-I can only imagine what you would add to the interior of a minivan. I don't think the Sienna would get to far in the ACT though.

 

[Desertdude]

Ha-I can only imagine what you would add to the interior of a minivan. I don't think the Sienna would get to far in the ACT though.

can you say 40" tires eepwall:

 

[hks3sgte]

Okay, I'll say it in here, but please don't berate me:

The 80 is a better trail rig. I own both and have taken both across terrain from low-desert to altitude and everywhere in-between. The 100'll do it all day long too, but there's no doubt in my mind the 80 does better in nearly every situation when off-highway save maybe some high-speed washboards.

Don't get me wrong, I'm way pro-Hundy and it simply shines in other arenas that are just as important like comfort, much-needed AC, and actually getting to where you want to go off-highway before you run out of fuel and the last cassette tape of Chris LeDoux.

Another one for which I'll take flack: A live front axle helps significantly despite it's inherent other problems; this just isn't in rock-crawling. It can mean a big difference in getting out many backcountry trails.

And something near and dear (not) to me about the Hundy is it's bias towards the rear brakes on light braking. If you like to drive at (what I consider) reasonable speeds in the ice/snow, it takes one a good while to get used-to.

I think you answered your question in that post.

Lots of trucks around similar to the 100 series if you want to go back that direction. ie 100s, 200s, Tahoes, Exdeditions, Durangos etc.

You really think a Land Cruiser 100 is in the same class as Tahoes, Exdeditions, Durangos etc?

 

[AndrewP]

You really think a Land Cruiser 100 is in the same class as Tahoes, Exdeditions, Durangos etc?

Certainly in the same class based on size, power, seating, GVW, towing capacity, axle configuration etc. The 100 has better build quality, no doubt.

 

[DBS311]

Sell the 100. If you ever want to go back (like Andrew said), there will be plenty of great condition 100 series for sale even 10 years from now. It is getting harder and harder to find good 80's, so I would hang on to it.

My wife is always hinting at me to sell my 62 since we just bought a 100, but it will never happen. To get another 60 series like mine would require a visit to TLC and the emptying of my entire bank account. I have driven it 500 miles in the last two years. My wife thinks it is a waste to own a car you don't drive but since I know it would be very difficult to pick up another clean one down the road, it will remain in my garage.

Long story short, you can always get another excellent condition 100. Keep the 80.