Need help choosing off-road lights!

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
Those are sweet! Haficon, if you get the Apollo, do the same picture wise. I know its not a "scientific" test, but will give an idea about how the lights work.
 

BJ'sFJ

BJ's Tundra :)
I'm on the southeast coast about 15 mins south of Palm Beach. Probably 3 hours from zephyr hills I think?

And finally here's some pics!

Scene 1 is a 2 lane road with a stop sign where the road terminates at a main road about 1/8th mile ahead. This is with JW Speaker Headlights (lowbeam) and Fog Lights:


Scene 1 now add XL 80's:


Scene 2 is a wharehouse area with a chain link fence about 75 meters ahead. This is shown with JW Speaker Headlights (lowbeam) and Fog Lights:


Scene 2 now add XL 80's:


Scene 3 is a 2 lane road which ends into a parking lot and signs about 1/4 mile up the road. Shown with JW Speaker Headlights (lowbeam) and Fog Lights:


Scene 3 now add XL 80's:


In conclusion... I can't imagine anyone not doing the Baja 1000 would possibly need more light than what a pair of these XL80's put out. I'm also thrilled with the color temperature it matches my headlights perfectly and is pleasing to the eye (not blue at all).


Love my XL80's!!! Awesome shots. Pics really don't do them justice.
Post some full shots of the jeep and they may just share on their Facebook and Insta!
 

Dzine07

Observer
I'm on the southeast coast about 15 mins south of Palm Beach. Probably 3 hours from zephyr hills I think?

And finally here's some pics!

Scene 1 is a 2 lane road with a stop sign where the road terminates at a main road about 1/8th mile ahead. This is with JW Speaker Headlights (lowbeam) and Fog Lights:


Scene 1 now add XL 80's:


Scene 2 is a wharehouse area with a chain link fence about 75 meters ahead. This is shown with JW Speaker Headlights (lowbeam) and Fog Lights:


Scene 2 now add XL 80's:


Scene 3 is a 2 lane road which ends into a parking lot and signs about 1/4 mile up the road. Shown with JW Speaker Headlights (lowbeam) and Fog Lights:


Scene 3 now add XL 80's:


In conclusion... I can't imagine anyone not doing the Baja 1000 would possibly need more light than what a pair of these XL80's put out. I'm also thrilled with the color temperature it matches my headlights perfectly and is pleasing to the eye (not blue at all).

Excellent pictures thanks for posting. I'm sold on the xL80's compactness and light output, I can't imagine the arb ar21's being that different but I could be wrong.

Question about mounting them to your a pillar, do you notice whistling and noise because of this? Does the light reflection off the hood bother you at night? They look great up there, I have an AEV bumper so I could mount them there but I really dig the a pillar look.
 

Dzine07

Observer
I want them on my AEV front bumper but they look really small inside that bull bar from what I can tell.


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kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
Dzine, have a look at KC gravity spots. They toss a mighty fine beam too. 900 plus meters of illumination. will fit the bumper nice and low draw.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
I am seriously looking at going with the gravity spots and exchanging my hella 450 fogs with the KC amber LED fogs in my bumper. I just need to make sure the gravity spots are what I want. I may toss a flex LED array in there too under the spots for close wide fill.
 

Chris85xlt

Adventurer
i love my Baja Designs Squadron XL (now called XL Pro) lights. Great pattern (i have driving) and color is a perfect white

Not a fan of my Rigid Dually lights. I had both spot and fog and both looks like driving pattern. Also color is more blue then the BD


I plan to get the XL80 for the bumper and move the current XL Pro up to the A-pilars.

I also have JW Speaker headlights. its whatever. i added yellow bulbs to my fog to bring back some contrast when in bad weather. Im still debating about tossing the Hella H4 conversion headlamps back in.
 
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Dzine07

Observer
i love my Baja Designs Squadron XL (now called XL Pro) lights. Great pattern (i have driving) and color is a perfect white

Not a fan of my Rigid Dually lights. I had both spot and fog and both looks like driving pattern. Also color is more blue then the BD


I plan to get the XL80 for the bumper and move the current XL Pro up to the A-pilars.

I also have JW Speaker headlights. its whatever. i added yellow bulbs to my fog to bring back some contrast when in bad weather. Im still debating about tossing the Hella H4 conversion headlamps back in.

Those XL80 spec's are great for such a small light. Really tempting.

I had HID's before and replaced bulbs more times than I care to admit. I think the flucuation of -40 and 80 degree temps inside my garage did them in. Something about that change in temp and the occasional condensation after a car wash caused them to go bust. This is why I started looking into LED despite the fact that I love the range of light output from HID's.

I currently have JW's top and bottom, they're okay.


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kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
I have truck lite headlights and LOVE them. The output from them are much better than JW even though the cough "experts" cough say otherwise. The nokya yellow bulbs in my factory fogs are good. You can really see better than stock bulbs. But I think the KC ambers would be a real upgrade. The wider beam of the truck lites are much better than the narrow light blob from the JW headlights. Then factor in the high beam in the TL is WAY brighter and a better beam pattern than JWs as well. I have no idea why they cut off the low beam on the JW when the high beam comes on. The truck lite keeps the low on with the high and provides a great even beam from bumper all the way out. The JW have a black spot in close followed by a brown blob, switching to blue then white. Nature of the projector lens they use I guess.

I agree with the rigids too. way to blue and not far reaching as their specs would have you believe.
 

kojackJKU

Autism Family Travellers!
Those LED bulb replacements flat out suck actually. There is no control of beam pattern and they do not project light anywhere. The more I look at the BD stuff the more I want it..ha ha.
 

Dzine07

Observer
I think i'd rather do the IPF 901 XSD than the Hella Rallye 4000.

Speaking of which how come no-one's mentioned the IPF's? Aren't these supposed to rock for the price point? Just wondering.

So far i'm leaning Baja Design's XL-R 80. At 19,000 Lumen's (for two) it's hard not to. I prefer the traditional IPF 'look' but i don't have experience with those.
 

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