Quiet tire replacement for Toyo Open County M/T recommendation needed

[ArtC2]

I currently have Toyo Open County M/T 295/R75/17 tires on my Dodge 2500 diesel quad cab that with my loaded Hallmark UTE camper weighs almost 12,000 pounds with 6,600 pounds on the rear axle (yes I know I am overweight) . The only problem with the MT’s is the high level of road noise and relatively poor tire wear. I am looking for a quiet alternative and am willing to give up some off-road performance as long and the on road wet and snow performance is still good. I am leaning towards the Toyo Open Country A/T tires in the same size but I am open to suggestions. If noise is still a problem with the new tires my next step is to consider installing sound insulation such as Dynamat. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Art

 

[DT75FLH]

I can tell you that I have run toyo MT, old stlye bfg MT, new style bfg MT, cooper STT, and a couple of off brand MT.

The toyos were the most quiet.

The toyo AT are almost silent in a diesel truck.

and FYI your not really over on the rear axle weight. it's rated for 6400 due to stock tires being 3190#. that same axle in a dually config is over 11k pounds (4 tires x 3190 =12760#)


the ONLY drawback to toyo tires in my experience has been mileage. I usually get 5-10K miles less in toyo's vs BFG etc(lots of towing miles). but the smooth riding, no balance issues make up for it IMHO. my current dodge 3500srw is running toyo at's. in fact I noticed a small crack near the sidewall (from road debris) on a trip towing my trailer from maine to L.V. due to the size, every where we stopped I would see if anyone had one but no one did. I monitered it the whole trip home (checking every gas stop etc) and by the time we got back (over 3500 miles) the crack had increased about 3/4 of a inch but held air and did not fail. I replaced it as soon as we were home.

 

[Redline]

Agree, the Toyo AT should be quiet. I've also heard reports of rapid wear.

For better off-highway performance and longer on-highway wear I would suggest one of my favorites, the ******** Cepek FC II. However, in the common 285/70R17 size they are only a load-range-D, 3,195-lb per tire @ 65 PSI. I usually prefer a LR D, but for your load I think a LR E and/or a higher capacity tire would be better.

 

[Climber Rob]

Toyo tires, both MT and AT, have been hit-or-miss for me. I agree with DT75FLH that the MT is about as quiet and smooth as you'll get with an MT tread pattern. I would consider the BFG AT for your application. They are a bit rough for an AT on the highway, but wear great, provide great wet asphalt traction, and are relatively quiet.

You also might consider the Cooper ST Maxx. I haven't run them yet, but have heard a lot of good things.

If you switched to 16" wheels, you could gain some load capacity from most 285/75/16 load range E tires, so you are not overloading them.

 

[Regcabguy]

Toyo AT's

I got 36K safe miles(no wear bar) out of my 285-75-17 Toyo AT's. I bought them used from a friend who never rotated nor rebalanced them for 18K. That changed with me. Do to a huge backorder problem with the AT's,I went with Toyo MT's this time around. I've got 10K on them now and still have 13/32" life left in them. They worked super in Ut but overall are overkill for me.

I'll return to Toyo AT's next time around. No balance issues,flats or structural issues. I've got a friend with a similiar truck/camper setup as mine who's logged hundreds of miles offroad aired down to 30# along the northern Baja Pacific coastline without a flat,blowout etc. with them.

 

[CodyB]

I run the Toyo MT on two different trucks including a F250 with 255/85/R16 which see a lot of highway and off-road use in a variety of unfriendly country in northern NV. Another tire that I have had good luck with is the Toyo M55 on a srw F250, a drw F350, and a Chevy 2500 all which see a lot of highway and off-road use. These tires wear very well but do not have quite the traction off-road as the MT but better than the AT.

 

[Rovertrader]

I have run the Toyo ATs on Expeditions, F150, and currently my F250 diesel- great tire for noise, balancing, and towing. I have not had wear issues, but am super anal on pressure and rotating. And if you want a bit taller, I run the 285/75-18s which are 35/11.50- very well pleased...

 

[BCHauler]

The Hankook rf10 has received some good reviews, including on this site. They are supposed to be smooth and quiet. Another one to look at is the Falken Wild Country / Rocky Mountain A/T

 

[Regcabguy]

I run the Toyo MT on two different trucks including a F250 with 255/85/R16 which see a lot of highway and off-road use in a variety of unfriendly country in northern NV. Another tire that I have had good luck with is the Toyo M55 on a srw F250, a drw F350, and a Chevy 2500 all which see a lot of highway and off-road use. These tires wear very well but do not have quite the traction off-road as the MT but better than the AT.

I had the M-55's on my 2nd gen Dodge. Excellent tire,but despite a petition containing well over a hundred names on one of the Dodge forums,Toyo won't release a 17" M-55 over a 265.

 

[crawler#976]

Are you sure it's a 295/75-17?

I see the Falken Wild Peak in an E rated tire in 295/70-17, and after looking at them at Discount Tire, it would be my choice. Wish they built them in an E rated 35/12.5-17.

 

[Halligan]

Though these may be wider than what you want Nitto makes there Terra Grappler in a 305/70-17 in load range E. It is 34"X12.3" and has a load rating of 3640lbs @65psi.

 

[mhiscox]

The Hankook DynaPro MTs are the best handling, quietest mud tires I know of. For something a little less aggressive, I'm very pleased with the handling, comfort and noise of my Goodyear DuraTracs. If you truly are most concerned about snow and wet performance, the Michelin LTX/MS2 is incredibly quiet and well-behaved and excellent in many kinds of snow; I've had them on four different vehicles. Biggest available is a 285, however.

 

[strider3700]

I run goodyear silent armor's on my F350. They are winter/snow rated are great in the rain and are quiet on the road which is where I spend 90% of my time. They are probably a big step back in traction compared to a mud tire though.

 

[78Bronco]

When it comes to tires there is no magic bullet for operating like a champion in hot desert, mud and snow/ice conditions. Snow and ice require a dedicated tire and I would recommend studs be installed. If you are looking for an "all terrain" with competent snow and ice performance then I would look at the goodyear wrangle at/s or silent armor. The biggest difference between your regular tires and winter/snow tires is compound which provides better adhesion to the substrate at lower temps. Cold hard rubber with little to no siping does not.like cold roads.

 

[DT75FLH]

Toyo tires, both MT and AT, have been hit-or-miss for me. I agree with DT75FLH that the MT is about as quiet and smooth as you'll get with an MT tread pattern. I would consider the BFG AT for your application. They are a bit rough for an AT on the highway, but wear great, provide great wet asphalt traction, and are relatively quiet.

You also might consider the Cooper ST Maxx. I haven't run them yet, but have heard a lot of good things.

If you switched to 16" wheels, you could gain some load capacity from most 285/75/16 load range E tires, so you are not overloading them.

Im unsure on the newer dodges if a 16" rim would clear the brakes?
I ran 16's on my 98 dodge, but my 2004 and 2010 were both running 17" rims. Not alot of clearance either.