40+ Imported Defenders seized by Homeland Security Today (developing story)

mongosd2

Adventurer
DHS knocked on my door @ 9am looking for our '84 110. Luckily, I hauled it out of state, just last weekend to be used elsewhere, on a now undisclosed location. They asked us for the address of the location we took it to. We told them we didn't know the address. Which we didn't. It was a piece of property that the family recently purchased. Odd that they didn't even ask to look in our garage. They left us their business cards and asked us to call when we had the address. The oil stains, from it marking it's territory were fresh.

After they left, empty handed, I spoke with my Wife's Aunt who is an attorney. She looked into the situation and she found that DHS was also seizing imported G Wagons. One of the lawyers, who owns a G, where she works with was affected. She also advised us to not answer any further questions from DHS, but to have those questions directed toward our legal counsel, aka Her. So, for now it's hunkered down under lock and key and we will see where this goes from here. There were no further attempts to contact us from DHS, so far today. I think they know their opportunity to collect the "easy" ones is done and gone. Maybe they will be deterred to pursue any other 110's.

Do you really think they are going to let this go that easily?
 

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
This is dhs keeping us safe.


"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788
 

rover4x4

Adventurer
hopefully, it does seem like a waste of resources but laws are laws. Defender thefts are an issue in the UK, perhaps some of the VIN swapped trucks were stolen. Its ashame for people to take advantage of others but the law on the 25yo clause is straight forward. SALDXxxxxxx is the best VIN to have in a Defender.
 

EIGHTLUG

Observer
Do you really think they are going to let this go that easily?

They didn't even ask to look in my garage, which was 20' away from where they were standing. Why would they put in the time and effort now, with me after I'm lawyered-up? The others, I cant speak for. I do feel really bad for them. I couldn't imagine the way I would feel if I was to ever sell the 110, let alone have it taken!
 

libarata

Expedition Leader
They didn't even ask to look in my garage, which was 20' away from where they were standing. Why would they put in the time and effort now, with me after I'm lawyered-up? The others, I cant speak for. I do feel really bad for them. I couldn't imagine the way I would feel if I was to ever sell the 110, let alone have it taken!

Just make sure you do not post anything incriminating on here, especially with hints as to who owns the property it is on.
 

Bigunit

Adventurer
Just make sure you do not post anything incriminating on here, especially with hints as to who owns the property it is on.
Too late...I think he already has publicly said enough to incriminate himself...wow, amazing how people seem to think that the internet is an anonymous place and people will readily admit that they committed multiple crimes without any fear of repercussions, even with "legal counsel". Right or wrong, guilty or innocent, I doubt any lawyer would advise a client to bloviate on the internet about their transgressions. 8lug, let us know how that works out for you.
 
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Dolomiti

Adventurer
This.

Too late...I think he already has publicly said enough to incriminate himself...wow, amazing how people seem to think that the internet is an anonymous place and people will readily admit that they committed multiple crimes without any fear of repercussions, even with "legal counsel". Right or wrong, guilty or innocent, I doubt any lawyer would advise a client to bloviate on the internet about their transgressions. 8lug, let us know how that works out for you.
 

EIGHTLUG

Observer
I haven't said anything DHS doesn't already know. Three men at my door with fully functioning ears, I'd presume, and a pad and paper. I highly doubt I'll hear from them again. If they really wanted it, they wouldn't have drove off, four minutes after knocking on my door.
 

mongosd2

Adventurer
I haven't said anything DHS doesn't already know. Three men at my door with fully functioning ears, I'd presume, and a pad and paper. I highly doubt I'll hear from them again. If they really wanted it, they wouldn't have drove off, four minutes after knocking on my door.

Right up until you try and register it...
 

Scott Brady

Founder
DHS knocked on my door @ 9am looking for our '84 110. Luckily, I hauled it out of state, just last weekend to be used elsewhere, on a now undisclosed location. They asked us for the address of the location we took it to. We told them we didn't know the address. Which we didn't. It was a piece of property that the family recently purchased. Odd that they didn't even ask to look in our garage. They left us their business cards and asked us to call when we had the address. The oil stains, from it marking it's territory were fresh.

After they left, empty handed, I spoke with my Wife's Aunt who is an attorney. She looked into the situation and she found that DHS was also seizing imported G Wagens. One of the lawyers, who owns a G, where she works was affected. She also advised us to not answer any further questions from DHS, but to have those questions directed toward our legal counsel, aka Her. So, for now it's hunkered down under lock and key and we will see where this goes from here. There were no further attempts to contact us from DHS, so far today. I think they know their opportunity to collect the "easy" ones is done and gone. Maybe they will be deterred to pursue any other 110's.

Best of luck. A 1984 110 should be ok, you will just need to demonstrate documentation and other proof of legal import. This is a tough situation, I have several friends with questionable vehicles.
 

High Center

Adventurer
The amount of time and effort involved in this doesn't come close to offsetting any advantage that we (the people) have gotten out of this silly, silly regulation....
 

EIGHTLUG

Observer
Best of luck. A 1984 110 should be ok, you will just need to demonstrate documentation and other proof of legal import. This is a tough situation, I have several friends with questionable vehicles.

That's the thing, Scott. The Agents didn't ask for any documentation. They were ready to seize the 110, no questions asked. When ours wasn't there, it's like they went on to the next one on the list. At least, that was our experience. It sounds like others had it much worse. Police cars, a dozen agents, roll back wrecker ready and waiting. A real embarrassing neighborhood show.

I was sitting in my office on a conference call when I watched an unmarked silver Ford Expedition pull up. Three men step out and start looking at my house and the surrounding street. Our house is on the market, so I thought they were just checking out the neighborhood. Maybe a realtor with a client, who knows? The knock at the door wasn't the realtor type knock...
 

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