Turns out I need a real truck. Kindly help me choose one!

phsycle

Adventurer
They are nice trucks. But in the end the F150 just offered more of what I need to use a truck for.

Tundras only came with 3:31 axle ratio.
No Max Tow option.
No bed entry steps
Had to go w/ platinum to get Tow Mirrors (?)
No front tow hooks, lol
And Toyota was going to charge $8 per month after the 1st year to be able to use remote start? That one angered me....

I actually had no idea Toyota went away from 4.30 rear. Too bad. Remote start subscription is just stupid. 🤣
 

Todd780

OverCamper
I actually had no idea Toyota went away from 4.30 rear. Too bad. Remote start subscription is just stupid. 🤣
Guessing cause they went with a 3.5 Twin Turbo V6 and a 10 speed transmission.
So 3:31 would probably work well for most. But I wanted the extra grunt for towing....
Max Tow came with 3:55. If I had went with a PowerBoost I believe it would've been 3:73's.
Pretty sure HDPP F150's also have 3:73's.

Anyway... Back to Rams....
 

hdas

Active member
Going back to the AEV package, this is the breakdown:

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The Diesel Exhaust Tip and the plate for winch cover are mandatory for diesel and for people not opting for a winch, also I need a spare. There are some optional items like the black branding (I hate chrome) and the Front Skid Plate, which seems prudent:

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Since this pursuit is and endless drain of money, there could be some potential AEV upgrades in the future (in yellow), but definitely not right now:

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The leather option is interesting, but I do wonder about the quality. Nowhere you can access leather without going 2 or 3 trim levels up and paying for a bunch of other crap.
 

hdas

Active member
Something Important: Talking to my wife yesterday, it seems that it is a priority for her to be able to partially use the back seat when we are travelling the 3 of us (so a seat delete is not the answer). In this video, around 3:25 timestamp, It shows the ability to do this. I need to figure out what trim level (if any) offers this, or if there are any good aftermarket equivalent solutions.

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I appreciate If anybody has any insight.
 

chet6.7

Explorer
What is difficult for me to establish at this point is, what is the balance of cost/benefits in order to choose properly?: It seems that for my specific application, the SO engine is sufficient and It could even be a better experience in terms of shifting and MPG, however I'm giving up a bit more power and a very robust transmission in the AISIN. Is this a wash then?.
I haven't been keeping up on the Cummins Forum like I did in past years, but I have read more complaints on the 68 trans than the Asin. A smooth shifting weaker trans VS a less smooth shifting stronger trans, I would pick the Asin.
 

hdas

Active member
Of course, this is what I have always done. Submit a detailed list of exactly what you want to the dealer and ask them to respond with a price. Over the years what I have done is select maybe 5-10 regional dealers, submit my list, and they reply with their best offer. I then visit one or two local dealers in my area and ask them if they are able to beat the best price. If so, I place my order there and wait 6-8 weeks, if they do not match, I deal with the regional dealer with the best price and place my order there. I have always ordered new vehicles exactly how I wanted them.
Just spoke with a dealer, it sounds that If I custom order I should expect a wait time between 4 and 6 months. :eek:
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Just spoke with a dealer, it sounds that If I custom order I should expect a wait time between 4 and 6 months. :eek:
It took 5 months for my F150. Does that timeline include the AEV conversion? If so that's not too bad....
 

phsycle

Adventurer
Have a dealer do a country wide search.

Or simply use cargurus.com and do a nationwide search with the parameters you want. It doesn’t get down to the nitty gritty but should get you close enough. Then fly and buy.
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Or:




 

Littlehouse

Adventurer
Years ago prior to finalizing the details on my AEV Prospector I spent a few years considering every possible suspension system available for the HD Ram. I selected AEV because they were the absolute best - no one else even came close and I knew this because I had been lifting vehicles since the early 90s. I promote AEV without apology since I wish for others to enjoy the highest level of safety and premium performance also. If Carli, Thuren, etc., begin building a superior system that is a "well-engineered, properly tuned suspension system that is designed for the people who rely on their truck every day in the real world and the people who also don’t want to sacrifice payload, ride quality or handling just to fit larger tires," I will be happy to promote a superior system.

On that note, please reply in excruciating detail how Carli is able to improve OEM steering and handling. And just for kicks, include how they also preserve OEM payload and towing capacities. Heck, toss in how Carli is covered by the OEM warranty. Or provide a list of what Carli parts are installed on the assembly line of a major manufacturer.

These are facts - AEV improves steering and handling, preserves payload and towing capacities, and if installed by AEV or an authorized AEV upfitter, the system or components are covered under factory warranty. AEV parts also have Mopar part numbers, and AEV components are installed on the assembly lines in Detroit. Spoiler alert, Carli, Thuren, etc. are unable to deliver on any of the aforementioned. I have absolutely nothing against either of the companies - I simply selected the best and for the past decade, AEV has reigned supreme. It's not even close folks.

Here are pertinent details regarding the Ram HD DualSport Suspension:

This explains the history of AEV:
Hey, as long as your happy, that’s all that matters.

I’ve seen the videos, and it’s been discussed many times. You can believe it’s not a fancy spacer lift with stock springs, and cheap 5100 series shocks or not. Doesn’t matter to me.

Yes, AEV has a solid relationship with manufacturers, but that doesn’t mean they have the best performing system. I’ve ridden in a stock ‘22 SD tremor and one down the street with a Carli pin top. It’s light years ahead of stock. I’ve never ridden in a prospector, but I can’t imagine how a spacer lift and cheap shocks makes the ride better. I’ve also seen plenty of Carli trucks towing 5th wheels to the dunes. Properly equipped, towing/payload isn’t an issue.

In the end, if you think $20k is worth it, it’s your money….
 

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