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https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the-new-land-rover-defenders-identity-crisis-sweetens-the-discovery-5/

Sooo looking forward to the new Defender pajama slumber party! It's like, going to be so fun!

Yes, you could subjectively argue the Wagon line, which increasingly diverged from the original HD models, should not wear the LC name. Maybe it should have been called the LC American, akin to how Toyota appended "Prado" to the LD line. I'm indifferent on that debate. I'm not sure what your...

The true numbers are much higher, Colin. You haven't accounted for lack of fashion Land Rover antibody testing, those who hate fashion Land Rovers and don't voice it on the internet, or those who think they like Land Rovers but have yet to be exposed to viral McGovern strains.

Looking at the configurations available now and before, the jobs done now and before, the markets now and before.. The answer is a clear and obvious no.

The Defender is not the 50, 60, 80, 100, 200 (Wagons) counterpart. That's the Discovery line. The correct LC branch to follow is the Heavy Duty line from 40 to 70 series. A few years ago Toyota added various safety features to achieve a 5-star ANCAP rating. That's where we're at. 70-series...

I don't believe it does in a broad sense. The design and engineering are praised, but is criticised nearly universally for its ridiculous price, market abandonment, and luxury focused trims. It isn't a simple matter of one or the other.

It seems we are in agreement that the fashion Defender is designed to perform different jobs for a different market. Sounds like a different product. How about the... Range Rover Influencer. Ah, there we go. Here we see the Influencer in its natural habitat.

The 200, like the 50-series is still a big heavy wagon with better than average off-road capability. It has diverged from the original concept on marketing and price however, driving itself into obscurity. This is either a bad faith argument or you have little imagination for what an honest...

I guarantee you some clueless marketing wank thought the world needed another crossover so bad they just had to sacrifice the Blazer name to this noble cause. Trust fund hipsters and Instagram influencers are going to be all over this thing.

You clearly missed the point. The 930 is not an ideal 992 successor.

They're still designed to perform the same jobs for the same people. Spot the difference?

It's no use trying to explain branching product lines. These are the same guys that wonder why monkeys haven't evolved into humans yet.

Came for the Strawberry cocktails and sick Q-Tip beats, stayed for the product development measurements. lol...

Perfect comparison, but how does this help support your point? 992 is far more similar and respectful 930 successor than the fashion Defender will ever be to the original. Let's get this straight. They took too long, unleashed the shittastic DC100, apologized for their stupidity, took longer...

Yes, classics were unreliable. See the difference yet?

Yet it wasn't, and thus it is not comparable to the current situation. There is no modern Defender in production, and that will continue production, while the fashion Defender branches off to conquer the yuppie market.

Yes, preferably there is some similarity. Otherwise, it's a free for all. Models become meaningless. Call anything whatever you want. Welcome to the Pathfinder world.

Of course they evolve. They must. However, many products have evolved, and even in their latest iteration, have kept what matters. The fashion Defender has not. It is a failure where others have succeeded.

Again, the 50 series was an additional line, not a replacement for the 40/70 series which continued on.