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Sorry if this has been brought up but it's not quite like a locomotive. Locomotives don't have a battery bank for powering the motors and the reason why a diesel/gas-electric like a locomotive isn't used is that they don't do well in transitioning from low to high load scenarios....like quick...

Understood - just saying it's not going to be done by an average or even above average mechanic and nobody would recommend pushing them to double + service limits on a rig like this if you are truly driving it in remote areas....you'll want to stay on top of recommended service intervals, or at...

Fair - I was just pointing out the LS was designed for severe duty vs the B58 that was not along with the LS being a relatively simple design all things considered and GM designs the engine + trans (with their crate programs) to be used in non OEM rigs which in theory would make it pretty simple...

It's always a tradeoff.....service frequency vs serviceability. Doesn't the engine have to be dropped on the B58 to do a timing chain?

Not trying to be smart but what about them? The LS engine is designed, tested, engineered and used in HD trucks and at least in NA has massive parts availability. I'd say in the middle of nowhere, even SA / Africa when you have to get parts shipped in, you'd probably stand a better chance of...

The chassis may have issues - why wouldn't it? Just because it's a solid axle?

Those engines were tested extensively by the company that designed and built them - they know the engineering / design limits and have a proven track record. It's a bit over the top to assume it WONT work, I agree, but lets be honest, they are not using the engine because it was best suited to...

Trust me I like the looks - but I'm honest about it, I gotta by stylin', but I'm not going to pretend it's gods gift to the expo world BECAUSE of it's looks....which lets be honest, is why it's getting the attention it is. Nobody looks at the engine and trans in a Supra and thinks ROW / remote...

Given that use case I'd think a gas LC200 or equivalent Lexus would do the trick given parts availability and commonality with sim rigs. It's less about capability and more about what rig is going to be the least likely to break down and the easiest to find parts for....

Great report! The locked gate situation - been there a handful of times myself....same situation here in Oregon out in the desert that we frequent on our motos. General rule of thumb is if gate is unlocked and no signs, it's an easement. I'd like to think if/when I do end up on private...

Great report - thanks for sharing....

Reading between the lines he likely meant the only ones that can service it, due to software / proprietary systems, is likely a IG dealer. May be a sim story to the John Deere debacle.

You say the only vehicles more stoutly built are Gwagens and LC200 - can you elaborate on that? For as simple as this rigs is being marketed as - all the sensors, and it has A LOT, worry me a bit....it's not the mechanical things these days, it's all the other stuff. I'm guessing the average...

Our of sheer curiosity - in markets with LC70's and Patrols and a history of reliability and tribal knowledge on both of those vehicles, what does the IG offer that the other two don't? Here in the US this is somewhat of a unicorn....

All initial reviews have been favorable, I've seen that too, but for an "expedition" rig how couldn't they be? I think the true metric for these rigs is how they will fair 2-5-10 years time, long term, reliability. Any modern rig feels good in the first year and on a test drive, smooth...

I agree in general bigger is better towing, but the 2.3L EB I had in my Ranger was a really great engine - pulled our 20' Airstream (~5000ish) zero issues. That LC 2.4L may not be able to make 200 hp and 2200, it will just settle where it needs to RPM wise to make the required HP and don't see...

I scrolled down before looking at any answers or clicking link. My old FJ40 w/2F was a 4.2L, rated at ~140 flywheel HP so, just above 100 to the wheels....this is 1/2 the displacement but probably revs a bit more, I'd say 55 to the wheels.

I'm in the camp of proven system vs simple concepts...while we have a simple "concept" that IG has been pushing, how that is executed is going to be KEY and it's waaayyy to early to tell on a IG as of now. Even my 2001 Tacoma had issues with the Elocker that was a huge PITA to fix....took it in...

I think you should ask yourself what the IG can do better than a LC200....looks aside.

MSRP is 40-50k for a 4R so you are looking 60-70k which is well within reason on a 24' LC. If one was willing to accept 100% markup you could pick up a nice LX600 which are very cool rigs and only 20k over a Gren.