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  1. DieselRanger

    Land Rover TREK series coming back

    @Fivespddisco Ok, so I saw a few Insta posts...will JLR NA release any film? Or are they waiting for the finals next year, which seems like should be in the new Defender? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk
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    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    If the purpose is to secure a load during overlanding, I would choose the cage vs the screen, only because I feel like it would prevent stored objects intruding into the passenger cabin better in the event of an incident like a rollover. I think you'd also be able to 'biner another load...
  3. DieselRanger

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    THANK YOU. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk
  4. DieselRanger

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Red Noland Jaguar Land Rover in Colorado Springs. Talked to the sales manager while I was picking up my D5 from its 32k service. The Rocky Mountain region has its own manufacturer rep...they got an early Disco for a week or two, as well as an I-Pace before they were released. Sent from my...
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    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Not necessarily so - pre-production does not always equal "prototype". Prototype equals prototype. On prototype vehicles, they may have parts-bin switchgear and not all of the features may work or work as they will in the production model. Panel gaps may not be to production tolerances, but...
  6. DieselRanger

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    One will be at my local dealer in a couple weeks. I plan to check it out. They've already got 10 preorders, and will probably get more when they have one on the lot. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk
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    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Land Rover claims the Defender will take 35's with a one inch lift.
  8. DieselRanger

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Three words: testing, testing, and testing. Infotainment is generally the top item that gets updates on modern vehicles. Tesla excepted, but their customer base tolerates being treated like they're app beta testers anyway - it's a "feature" of ownership. Drivers of "conventional" brands like...
  9. DieselRanger

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Yeah, and any time I don't have to go to the dealer to get a software update is fine with me. Nobody questions it when it happens on their smartphone, and in fact would throw a fit if they had to go back to the phone store to get an update. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk
  10. DieselRanger

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Cool! How did you spec the extra graphic or did you 'shop it? If they're going to wrap it anyway, might as well offer some choices other than plain satin. I'd get the Green HSE with all the toys, with the wrap and the white roof, but I too may hold out for a NAS diesel, hopefully an inline six...
  11. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    It's not an aluminum structure, it has standard steel, high strength steel (which is a very specific kind of steel produced with specific matallurgical processes), and ultra-high-strength steel in addition to aluminum and magnesium. The body panels are aluminum, just like the original created in...
  12. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Um, *who* has to check their facts? The supercharged 8 you reference is absolutely not a Crown Vic engine, or even anything close to a Crown Vic engine - except that they were both developed by Ford, decades apart. The supercharged AJ V8 that was in Jags and Range Rovers in the 2K's was a...
  13. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Doesn't mention it in this article, but they've been looking at autonomous driving tech for off-roading for years, and specifically bringing in wounded warriors through the Invictus Games to test it out and provide feedback. The videos they have shown in their customer engagement groups are...
  14. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    What Kia? I will say the Koreans are coming up fast and with a purpose. Would have loved to have a Genesis G70 3.3T AWD for my wife, so that when she has to drive the Disco I can have some fun, but Hyundai totally f*cked up the Genesis entry by not opening with a bargain-lux SUV and not...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Technically it was the highest margin-earning drivetrain available since Ford owned JLR at the time, and they could use the engines from other applications, which spread the cost of development that much more. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk
  16. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    That's temporary, purely on the dealers (not JLR), and will only last as long as the first few roll off the lot, same as with any new, desirable vehicle. As we all know, good sense and deep pockets are often mutually exclusive. Those who can be patient and don't need to be seen as the first at...
  17. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Yes, that's the "looks" thing. No, not at all. Every single thing Porsche has done to the 911, Land Rover has done the equivalent in the Defender. They have injected technology, changed the basic way it functions, added features that "purists" didn't want - they only thing that's the same -...
  18. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Maybe I don't want a Land Cruiser for $90k+ after tax and title that I can only select the color on and maybe buy some floor mats or some locking wheel lugs. Lexus GX's are hideous and overpriced for what they offer (computers? Lousy with em...). I don't want a Wrangler because they fall apart...
  19. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    1. The "stick in the sand" remark literally refers to the actual origins of what was renamed the Defender in the 1980s. It's only polarizing to people who wanted the old Defender but couldn't have it. The sepia image of a simple off-roader that was drafty and loud and rusted out at the corners...
  20. DieselRanger

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Ok, so your argument is based solely on looks then. Got it. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T337A using Tapatalk
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