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  1. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    That is fine but what I am talking about and what I think Shade is talkin about is you start with a strap some slack in it and get a running start.
  2. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    I have worked with these, they work fine. These are suitable tow points. I wouldn't want to get a running start to yank someone out with them or pull hard sideways. My Camry has this, my scion has the little cut outs but just the Styrofoam behind them. it has a tow point in the back.
  3. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    Nobody here said they wouldn't help someone.
  4. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    How do you prepare a car that sits 4 inches off the ground with nothing but plastic around the bottom? If I could get a new reliable Toyota that go 35- 40mpg per gallon with metal bumpers I would but you can't. Have the tow guy do it, they can usually get under the tires and lift it as opposed...
  5. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    Friday looks like it could be one of those days.
  6. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    I had a guy delivering furniture to my home get his pick truck stuck at my place. A little kitty litter was all he needed. I have used a floor mat also. Dollar general sells cat litter for a buck a bag. I keep some around. I should but some in my car, I will get some on the way home.
  7. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    My everyday cars (2019 Camry and 2016 Scion) are not properly equipped just almost everyone else you encounter when you are traveling on the road. If my son, friend or whoever was stuck in my Camry or Scion I probably would not even tow out my own car. My tow hooks and winch sit much higher on...
  8. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    When you help somebody get unstuck you never know what might happen. https://abc13.com/5073360/
  9. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    I would rather the Tow Truck guy have a crack at it and the damages be between the driver and the guy getting towed. The tow guy will be better equipped than I will. Even then, unless you are blocking traffic the tow guy isn't going to get you if the conditions are bad. The OP is talking...
  10. MOguy

    Concealed Carry - What Have You Got?

    This Ranger seems to have purposely detained a person for longer than necessary with out reason but I can't just assume that is what happened. I am not sure it is a training issue. I see it differently. There are questions that need to be answered. Could be anything from a Ranger abusing...
  11. MOguy

    Concealed Carry - What Have You Got?

    the only time I ever talked to a Ranger about a firearm was one time camping in a National Park. His comment was he'd rather have people bring a firearm with them in the office and leave it in their tent. I'm not sure how we got on the subject, I was asking about what forestry roads that were...
  12. MOguy

    Recovery thoughts, ideas, advice

    Won't be an issue with me. I don't do large groups. I only wheel with friends and family who are properly equipped. I won't leave my buddies behind but if your in a one ton oversized dually or a 1984 Ford Tempo up to yoeu floor boards in snow and mud in a ditch I am not your man. I am not...
  13. MOguy

    Concealed Carry - What Have You Got?

    We seem to be stuck in 2nd amendment / CCW thing. It is just what rights are in general. Laws should protect us and our rights. Rights should dictate law, law should not dictate rights. For me it is more of a 4th amendment issue not so much a 2nd amendment issue. Whether you expect me to...
  14. MOguy

    Concealed Carry - What Have You Got?

    QUOTE="ventura911, post: 2727600, member: 1795 But earlier you saide CCW can escalate the problem. You also talked about not being required to show it but obligated to make things go smoother. To mean that sounds almost like a threat. Do what I say or suffer? I may not be understanding what...
  15. MOguy

    Concealed Carry - What Have You Got?

    I will assume based on the number of years you've worked in law enforcement you are in your mid-50s, as am I. In your scenario above you give a completely *********-up version and a completely perfect version. Throughout you're probably 50 some years existence how many times did things work out...
  16. MOguy

    Concealed Carry - What Have You Got?

    you say your pro-second Amendment. if that were the case then everybody who is a US if that were the case then everybody who is a US citizen, unless they are a criminal or too young, Could be lawfully armed. why would it bother you if somebody's printing? I can see if there's some sort of...
  17. MOguy

    Concealed Carry - What Have You Got?

    We need to use more emojis. This way we can better insure our message is clearly received. ;)
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