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So you then understand that in order to gain mechanical advantage there has to be a pulley moving in the direction of the load within the system. The video posted has two pulleys and it shows a 2 to 1 mechanical advantage he even explains that the fixed pulley is only for change of Direction...

Actually the amount of cable on the drum will affect the pull but in a different manner

Let's keep it simple and go step by step. We agree that the pulley has to be moving within the system or on the load to game mechanical advantage. If that is the case can the second picture in the Jeep tree diagram where it shows the cable going from the winch on the Jeep to a pulley on the...

Just think about it. The cable cannot change length, it's not possible. The only thing that moves or changes is the positions of the pulleys. In order for the pullies to change position they have to move and in order for them to move they had to be located on the load which is moving or within...

Is there or is there not a pulley moving within each one of these systems that gains mechanical advantage? When I say moving I don't mean rotating, I mean moving in the direction of the load.

Go look at a come along and see how it operates

If you look you'll noticed that there is a pulley that moves within the systems

are you too close minded and lazy to learn. Don't you have 10 minutes to prove me wrong?

It is not the Rope moving around the pulleys that causes mechanical advantage. It is the distance the rope moves between pulleys that causes mechanical advantage.

Doesn't each system have a pulley that moves within the system?

when you have more or less winch wrapping around the drum it is like a gear. different size gears spin at different rate. The same is true if the pulley MOVES with in the system. I initially though I was going to be wrong until I tested it. Why can't somebody else to the same to either...

somebody here has to have a winch and a pulley.

Trolling?? The pulley has to move, therefore it has to be on the load or within the system. If the pulley stays in one place the cable will move the same distance on each side. The anchor point and that pulley are stationary in my set up. The pulley moving is the key. Prove me wrong.

Even if you look at this illustration they show the pulley on the Load (not the anchor) to gain advantage.

Got them posted for you nonbeleivers. If you have a winch, a pulley and 10 minutes please prove me wrong.

1 foot mark for tire 2 foot mark for cable cable from winch back to Jeep cable moved on foot Tire moved one foot cable moved 1 foot, tire moved one foot 1:1 mechanical advantage.

I hope somebody gives it a shot. Show me my results are incorrect. I am sure somebody here has a winch, pulley and 10 minutes.

I really don't care if I am wrong or right, I just want to know. After watching the video I thought I was wrong. After setting it up and doing it I saw something else. I am encouraging anybody here to set it up for themselves and post the results. I will take you less than 10 minutes. I...

I did it in the real world and provided pictures. Do your own experiments and post your results

I was beginning to believe until I did my experiment