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Indeed, in real scenarios outside of 4x4 parks, it's better. I don't spend my weekends on Golden Spike or the Rubicon. Finally! Progress!

The D2? We're comparing TC from 4 generations ago to the new truck? So where in Colorado is it than my 'handicapped' LR3 won't go?

TC is a limitation vs a true locker in terms of pure mechanical grip. Nobody is debating that. But what should I plan for? Like I've posted dozens of times, I have yet to find anywhere short of specific extreme 4x4 obstacle challenges (not destinations) where I cannot go with my LR3. Does...

Right. My stock LR3 - with 1000lb more weight, 31" tires and worse geometries than the #NewDefender had no issues in Moab (trails up to Level 6/7), anywhere in SWCO, and made it through my local 4x4 park where I was surrounded by Rubicon Wranglers who were confused as to how I had even gotten...

Nothing short of a self-driving off-roader will solve this. If I drive a Ferrari 488 into Turn 1 on a racetrack at top speed without having touched the brakes, would you blame the driver or the stability control system when it hits the wall? Or the suspension design? (This isn't even uncommon...

^ Agreed. Would have much preferred to see a video similar to the stock JK vid shared by Victory - a 110 being driven by a competent driver. I personally don't really need to see it as I know that the Defender is more capable than my LR3 and my LR3 will go anywhere I'd ever want to go. As I've...

I stand corrected. However, I suspect somebody with that sort of driving 'style' is unlikely to have done so. Because we are 130+ pages into hate for a car which is hated for the sake of being hated. If they released a solid axle piece of garbage nobody would ever buy, the forums would be full...

No, vehicles have TC bc its mandatory by law. Just like ABS and traction control. And no, you don't need momentum for TC to work, at least not on an advanced system like with LR. I can start off from a dead stop and the moment my front wheel spins (no front locker) that wheel is then locked (by...

I still can't watch that video in entirety. Guy just keeps smashing it into things, ignoring his spotters, and using foot-to-the-floor in place of wheel placement, throttle inputs, steering input... everything. And yea those tires are most certainly at street pressure. Poor truck.

If a wrangler or 4R owner leaves their truck in 2WD, would you not call it out? Cmon man.

I've got a 15 year old rover and I with the off-road TC and rear locker I never have these issues. That's why we're questioning it, not bc of blind loyalty. I'm happy to own or wheel a Jeep or a Toyota (have had both) and would ask the same questions if one of those were performing this way...

Yeah, something is up. In my LR3 (HD pack) I just drive with two feet and slowly apply throttle and the moment you get that kinda slip the rear locks and you walk right over. No different than when I'd experience similar issues in more analog rigs and I'd hit the rear e-diff locker. Tires look...

Mind sharing a link? :)

I'd suspect (suspect only, I work in aerospace test not trucks) that the SAE J2807 test is typically limited by engine cooling, not brake capacity. That being said, the P400 could very well have larger brakes, but I haven't seen any proof of this. I certainly hope you can run an 18" wheel in the...

Is this for sure? I only see one brake rotor size listed anywhere I've looked. I assumed the 18" wheel option was purely due to options (no "lower end" wheel on a higher option car) Also, does the HD LR3 have thicker axles? I do not see a difference when shopping axles for HD package vs not. My...

Yep, get it done. Victory covered everything except I also recommend getting a $180 lifetime alignment deal at Firestone. I get it done once a year. For hubs wiggle from 12 and 6 of clock on wheel if this is good then for tie rods wiggle from 3 and 9 o clock. If you only do 3/9 you won't know...

This is honestly the closest thing you can find to 'tHeY DeSIgn iT tO FaiL RiGhT AFteR tHe WArranTy is uP' It's across all brands, they do 10-15k, now 20k+ changes to save a few bucks on the included maintenance at the dealer, which catches up to whomever keeps it past the first few years. I've...

Yep. I sat in one today. It's pretty awesome.

Dealer called!!!! Drove over and sat it a pre-production model for a bit, gonna look at it again with the wife later. Interior space and 'feel' is great. Just like my LR3. It's definitely a bit smaller in the trunk (cmon 130) but the rear seat is great. Tons of space underneath the rear...

Glad to see deliveries have started. That camera makes me dizzy!