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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    As I suspected based on financials. The ole "We are committed, until we are not" Tata Motors Reaffirms Its Commitment To Jaguar Land Rover "The chairman of Tata Motors says the Indian automaker remains committed to Jaguar Land Rover despite recent reports that it was looking to sell the...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Expect to see a reduction in Jaguar and Land Rover models as cost saving pressures increase. Jaguar Land Rover Turnaround Fails to Dislodge Short Bond Bets Bloomberg 20 December, 2018 "Short sellers are still circling bonds from Jaguar Land Rover even as the British luxury carmaker embarks on...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    The D5 may be good in many environments but not all, and never will be with current reliance on technology to ameliorate basic design limitations. I watched as multiple Land Rovers attempted to climb or climbed a relatively benign hill composed of broken down granite/shale rock. Those relying on...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    With JLR financial losses and reports of 5K layoffs I suspect the 202x Defender will be here sooner rather than later.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Can't imagine the D5 "wing radiators" surviving any hostile environment. New off the show room floor a D5 is very capable. The level of complexity of subsystems and overall design will relegate it to a highway cruiser as it ages. There was a time when Land Rover was targeted at the simple /...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    The point was that there are vehicle designs that work in today's regulatory environment and they are not jelly beans with sloping rear roof lines. Each market segment has unique requirements that one 'design language' cannot serve. (Current Land Rover products all look the same) Some time in...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Another design point perspective - Land Rover was a agricultural / work truck for the UK farm / small business - International Scout was a agricultural / work truck for the US farm / small business - The LR4 did not fit that design envelope. A LR4ish Defender would not serve the Defender market.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Arguments aside, is this what everyone wants in a 202x Defender? :cool: Modern infotainment comes to classic Jaguars and Land Rovers Now apply this strategy to a 90's Defender ........
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    SAT Communicator or SAT Phone?

    Let's not forget the old truism. Old technologies die hard. As land based cell phone technology matures, saturates and growth declines the cost will drop as every last ounce of profit is squeezed out. Any satellite technology will have to overcome that reality.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Another new technology vs old technology debate. Interesting but not really relevant as all vehicle manufacturers are converging on technology. Technology normalizes the feature set that, in the end, there are fewer and fewer degrees of difference between the various manufacturers. Land Rovers...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Feels like JLR is headed to another change of ownership as product/design direction falters. Jaguar Land Rover weakness drives owner Tata Motors deeper into junk rating December 05, 2018 Automotive News Europe MUMBAI -- S&P Global Ratings lowered the credit rating of Tata Motors and its Jaguar...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    The auto industry is headed headlong into rising regulation impacting design envelope and decreasing demand driven by cost and alternatives.
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    New Electric Rivian Truck To Challenge Land Rover

    Nice urban duty Ridgeline. Just don't go too far off road.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    JLR struggling. They are in re-trench mode. Jaguar Land Rover announces turnaround plan as sales slide "......The poor performance has resulted in a pretax loss of $116 million for Jaguar Land Rover. ....... ......In the more immediate future, Jaguar Land Rover is hoping to turn things around...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Looks like the LR3/4. Still say LR is stuggling with the new Defender as the design point of multi-use/farm/ranch/military is not within their current 'design language' of sleek but boring.
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    SAT Communicator or SAT Phone?

    True, but neither are you. Think mesh hand-off.
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    SAT Communicator or SAT Phone?

    More of VLEO FCC tells SpaceX it can deploy up to 11,943 broadband satellites Initial launch of 4,425 satellites to be followed by 7,518 closer to the ground. Not just SpaceX, several other companies to also launch into VLEO. With Smartphone sector saturated and in decline this may be the...
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    SAT Communicator or SAT Phone?

    Maybe this should be a new thread but let's start here: 5.. 4.. 3.. 2.. 1... Runty-birds are go: 12,000+ internet-beaming mini-satellites OK'd by USA FCC signs off on broadband-in-space plans, plus connections to Europe's GPS By Kieren McCarthy in San Francisco 15 Nov 2018 "America's...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    I suspect Land Rover is struggling with the new Defender. I recall it was originally a 2018, then 2019, then 2020 ...... The market has changed with sales in decline, debt overhang beginning to bite, interest rates rising and a general falling out of love with technology. Simple is rising while...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    People like to personalize their vehicle with aftermarket offerings. That is why the Jeep is so popular. Land Rover's latest offerings all look the same and minimize aftermarket customization, therefore limiting their appeal. The spy shots look like a LR3/4.
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