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chadx. Yeah the increased height changes things up a bit. Interestingly the ATO AterraXL is also increasing in height. Trying to by a used pre 2023 HBE in a few years not the best plan probably. Reach out to Arnold, I don’t think it was 5 inches, maybe 3-4? Also take a look at pictures on...

In short the BASE CAMP goes on the F350 / 3500 platform. SUMMIT on the F550 / 5500. SUMMIT is a beast. There was one at EXPO, the one that OEV uses for pictures on their website. It’s big.

So my recollection when talking to Arnold was that 2023 OEV production which starts in August would bring a change to the HBE with the storage and that overall height would increase. Also that current customers could order an add on to provide a limited amount of space under the bed. With the...

On the HBE. Upcoming change is an increase in overall height to add the underbed storage. I would guess that will bring a cost increase. For the CAMP X and FX. I stopped by to look at the BOWEN products, and also saw the “Stormtrooper “ setup. The slide in bed platform BOWEN is making allows...

Breath of fresh air! ;)

I like both. Color does not bother me. Option for the No Wood No Staples No BS would be nice.

It's a great looking rig, thanks for the tour before your class.

It's a tight fit but looks like it works. The toilet sits on an aluminum platform from the floor. Likewise, there is an aluminum plate with holes that serves as a shower grate. The drain runs to the passenger side box and out the sidewall. You can see it in the picture below the OEV sticker. The...

Ok, now I understand that doubler plate I can see at the back. Similar to the ones inside the cabin for the grab handle at the door. The L track has a lot of utility. Hopefully enough demand for it that they offer it. One common theme I came across was a lack of ability to store long items...

Did you get the sPOD or GARMIN control unit? What is the max load limit of the rear aluminum panel? I would like to see the ability to add L track on the exterior walls like OEV.

Great to see you finally have the end product. I was able to speak to Mario at EXPO, posted over on your ATO AterraXL thread.

Stopped by ATO at EXPO, and was able to speak with Mario. First impression, definitely impressed. I think this certainly is a contender, compared to the OEV HBE. Some changes from the displayed prototype and upcoming production. First, on this display unit, the flatbed tray has been changed to...

I stopped by ATO, impressed. I think there is a market to be had between the 75K HBE and 150K BASE CAMP. I asked about simplifying and sticking with the mechanicals of the HBE, leaving the electric roof mechanism and the items that grow organically with the added space such as fresh water...

There was an HBE at the BVO display at the Expo. It was a customer vehicle and I was not able to go inside for a look. I did however get to see the ATO AterraXL. Wow. I asked Arnold about perhaps an 8.5 or 9 foot HBE, no plans for that.

Spent some time with Arnold at the Expo. The CAMP FX was parked at ATO next to the ATO AterraXL. General comment. Space is such a premium that everything gets crammed in together. I have only seen one OEV product to date, a CAMP X. It was nice to wander around ATO and BVO and see some OEV stuff...

I spent some time with Arnold at the Expo. Disappointed there was not a Base Camp there to look over. Understandable since there is only Mark's prototype and now a single production model in the wild. Discussed the whole product line though my interest really lies with the HBE / BASE CAMP. I...

Crazy when even the smallest and simplest of things are so hard.

Hey Howard, how is the build coming along?

interesting. I like to see a little more information on that and how they set it up in that space.