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That image has made the rounds months ago. The bottom picture is not from a Land Rover manual.

https://www.ownerinfo.landrover.com/document/3E/2020/T22693/38353_en_GBR/proc/G2392086 - Land Rover does not recommend using a weight distribution hitch with the Defender's air suspension.

It's not the disagreement that makes one a troll - it is the trolling. I am talking about stuff like focusing on rock crawling as the be-all end-all of off road driving even after two hundred freaking pages of people providing example after example of other things about the Defender that they...

Don't bother - he is not actually listening to their words or acknowledging the reality that Ford and Jeep do the exact same thing, he's just spewing hate for the sake of spewing hate.

Is this ************ still posting pictures of people who work at JLR to try to shame them for their appearance and diminish the brand? What kind of insecure manbaby does this nonsense? Grow the hell up.

Yeah I would not call the stuff he says "credible". It's not just the "delivery", he spouts off things that are just plain wrong, and never acknowledges or apologizes for it. The message is bad too. I don't care if he's a nerd, or if he's abrasive in the way he talks. I am a nerd and I am...

Why do people keep sharing 4XO's "I am mad that Land Rover stopped inviting me to their events" biased garbage videos like he has anything of merit to say? He's a grouchy clickbait troll with an axe to grind.

Or once anybody else has a competing product for sale. The advantage of being first out the gate is that you can get the cash from the suckers early adopters who can't wait. ... I might get a set.

Lucky 8 has listed their rock sliders, but they are not in stock yet. 1800 bucks! https://lucky8llc.com/collections/defender-2-accessories/products/proud-rhino-rock-sliders-1?variant=32546522333230

I am just waiting to be able to buy any of these solutions (other than lift rods). I just want to see what it will cost to put 18's on a P400, or add some rock rails, or get a bumper that still supports the parking sensors because I take my jawn to the mall too.

I said this as soon as I saw the panoramic sunroof. Even without optioning the expensive fabric roof, they are using the same unibody whether you have a window in the roof or not, so that is a place that should be pretty safe for aftermarket upfitters to cut a hole.

Not gonna lie, I wish the Heads Up Display was available as an add-on when I bought mine. It's completely pointless, but I want to pretend like I'm driving a fighter jet :LOL:

I assumed most of them would be tires that wouldn't fit without their rods - and I am quite happy with the stock ride height.

Had a phone call with Kimberly's US distributor this week, and am definitely pretty interested. I'd be going with the non-pop top version because I would expect to live in it for months at a time, and all that setup gets old. I have done ~ two months in my camper van no problem but would like...

Ever since I took that Kia Soul picture (and the trolls took the bait), I've been wanting to do a whole series where I snap photos next to every vaguely square-ish vehicle on the market. Honda Element? You bet. Ford Edge? Oh Yeah! A 1996 Winnebago Rialta? If I can find one! Edit: I win!

Thanks! It needs better tires, but that's what was on the lot, so I'm figuring out what I want to do with them now.

This argument has nothing to do with the question about roof racks. Please take your petty bickering to the rage/hate thread.

Still breaking it in, but headed down to the coast for a hike and some dinner...

Great reports! I’m curious, since you switched the tires out - which did you have from the factory?

I was going to get something chrome-plated bumper to bumper with 22" rims, but all they had on the lot was boring Pangaea Green, so I had to go with that... In all seriousness, I love the color. I was torn between the green and the Stone, but the green with the black roof looks great out in...