1973 Wagoneer - Full Size Camping Goodness

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Well, i may have messed up.

Not sure if the new rear end is going to work under my truck, because narrow track quadra-trac axles have the largest offset of any of the axles they used.

I'll likely bolt it up without doing anything to it to test the driveline angle and what not, then proceed from there.
 
Daaayyyyuuuuuummmm!

Very nice! The body style for the Cherokee 4-door is my favorite. A few things come to mind. You want to drive the Waggy several times a week, as you don't want things like bearings and other mechanical parts to take a setting and go out of round, not to mention the powertrain seals need to stay lubricated through running. I don't know anything about the ACs on these things, but one thing I learned from reading online about other vehicles is that people will try to squeeze extra gas mileage by not running the AC at all during the winter, just hot air without the AC compressor running. You end up with unlubricated bearings that wear down or seize up, causing a repair bill of about $3000-4000 to replace EVERYTHING, because the compressor deals with the fluid, and the imploded parts go into it and contaminate every part they get routed through. Just run the AC with the compressor on at least once a week (says so in a 2003 Honda CRV's owner's manual, for example). Had I had a Scout along with my Jeep, I would have been driving both about equally just to keep them in running shape. Another thing I would consider doing is shoulder seat belts if at all possible as a safety mod. You don't want to hit your face against the dash nor snap your passengers' spines in half.

You really did the right thing by buying this Jeep and doing the work yourself. Too bad I don't have these skills and a place for it, as my Scout II never materialized (not known as to what will happen). Too bad I didn't try to go after a Jeep Cherokee Chief 4-door in the first place. A heck of a lot more parts available for it, and MANY more people that have them than Scouts. At least I have my Jeep Wrangler LJ. I love it, and it has been fun driving and camping in the back in Sleeper mode. One thing I have thought about doing is running my LJ through a restoration cycle when it needs it, oh I don't know, 20 years from now.
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Thanks guys.

I'm going to try mt luck with the offset axle this weekend. Hopefully it'll work out and I can continue as planned. Otherwise, it'll be a pain.
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Well, i had been told "yes it'll work" and "no it wont work" by lots of different people, and figure dthe only way to find out if my Narrow track quadra-trac axle with about 6.5" of offset (more offset than a wide track QT axle [5"], and more offset than an old style offset Dana 20 t-case axle [3.5"] )would work.

Out with the old
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next to the slightly less old:
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Seems Legit.....
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But as of right now:

My brake lines are a total mess (need replaced) and I have no shocks, and the e-brake lines on this axle are cut do i need to address that when I do new shoes and drums and hardware.
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My exhaust is held in place off to the side with a wire hanger
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My front drive shaft is unbolted and held in place with a wire hanger and duct tape (and no i still dont have an inspection cover on my torque converter)
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But, it seems to ride and drive fine. Had it up to about 50 in the neighborhood, havent dared to take it on the highway with those rotted 31's and no shocks. But, no weird vibes or anything, so, hopefully upwards of 60 MPH it drives the same.

Phew, i'm beat.
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Well, i gone and done it, swapped the 33's to the new (old) rims.

Can you say 'vintage'???

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With the good tires on there I went out and got the truck up to 65 real quick on a nice stretch of road (still dont have shocks). No noticable vibes in the driveline, it actually seems to vibe LESS on deceleration than before.

Woohoo!
 

rxinhed

Dirt Guy
Looks great!

I saw a Wagoneer on a trailer, going somewhere fun (I hope) in the parking lot of my hotel in Douglas, Wyoming. I thought of your truck when I noticed it. You don't have the clunky front bumper with PTO winch this guy has...real poor approach angle.

Cheers,
Russell
 

d67u57

Adventurer
very nice. should turn heads especially when parked next to something recent!

any chance you could drop an i6 in there. not the 4.0,but the earlier one.

im told its quite good on gas,good torque too.
 

88Xj

Banned
very nice. should turn heads especially when parked next to something recent!

any chance you could drop an i6 in there. not the 4.0,but the earlier one.

im told its quite good on gas,good torque too.


4.0 would actually be better unless you want nostalgia(sp?) better on gas, more useable power. And if you got lucky with a 96+ advancing the cam 4* is good for roughly 40fts and 28hp at the crank at peak and even more under/over the curve. The stock cam runs an easy 6200rpm which we don't see so a slight advance won't hurt 1 bit, actually it'd help every where.
This wouldn't negate any other changes either!
 

d67u57

Adventurer
nostalgia,yup.

havent messed myself with the bullet proof reliability of the 4.0..

i thought you needed a stroker for decent upgrade in power/torque.
 

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