2006 DC Tundra. DD meets ongoing tinkering.

wrenchMonkey_

Adventurer
Should be done all the wiring tonight or tomorrow. I'll get some more pictures up then. I'll let it be for a week and see how everything works in use/real world and then paint the bracket and battery hold down. Need to see where I am going to mount by winch disconnect switch.

That is a clean install. Looks great.
Thanks. As the saying goes, looks good works good.

That looks really nice. I've been using the less expensive 7610 ACR without issue for several years, but it's fully automatic and rated for 120 amps.
I was eyeing up the 7610, but I have an upgraded alternator from a Sequoia that I put on rated at 130A. Doubt it ever puts out that much, but, for 12VDC electrical stuff I like to upsize wiring and do my calcs for less than 3% voltage drop, so it seemed natural to go with the 7622 ML-ACR with its 500AMP capacity, and well, lets be honest, the cool in cab switch. All kidding aside, the switch was important to me, as I'd like to be able to isolate and link my batteries on command. For winching, I'll probably link the PC1200s together, which is where it comes in handy to have the in cab switch. Not to mention self jumping and a myriad of other things. Tho it will sit on AUTO %99.9


Thanks. Its really just a fancy plate to mount the switch for my under hood lights :)
 
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trailscape

Explorer
Makes sense. I didn't think I'd ever see that kind of amperage in my setup and figured I could add a switch if needed. I have my aux battery in the bed and installed the ACR in the rear cab corner between the door and rear seat. I wired it up with 2awg welding cable.
 

wrenchMonkey_

Adventurer
Makes sense. I didn't think I'd ever see that kind of amperage in my setup and figured I could add a switch if needed. I have my aux battery in the bed and installed the ACR in the rear cab corner between the door and rear seat. I wired it up with 2awg welding cable.

Seems legit. The switch is handy and its always nice to have options. I'll see how these two smaller batteries work out for me.
 

wrenchMonkey_

Adventurer
posted this in electrical, but I'll cross post it here too-

Well, the dual battery and fuse block install is done.

I have been wanting to do something about my battery for a while. My 8 year old NAPA battery was getting a bit long in the tooth and I wanted to replace it with something a bit better. I was eyeing up the dimensions of a Odyssey PC2150 and PC1500 to see if I could shoe horn 1 or 2 in my engine bay. The one spot I could get a second Group 34 battery would be near the PS Reservoir/ABS Module. That spot has been earmarked for an air compressor so that was out of play. I wanted to keep the cable runs short and while looking at other setups on the interwebs, I came across a few people who were running dual Odyssey PC1200's. A bit more research and I was sold.

While a smaller battery physically, the PC1200 is certainly no slouch. With 540CCA and 1200 Pulse Hot Cranking Amps (5-seconds) starting would not be a concern. After I got the batterys I actually took the old one out of the truck, hooked it up, let a new uncharged (arrived at 12.5V) PC1200 sit overnight outside in -40C for 12 hours. I wanted to see if one could do the job and the next morning sure enough no problems. I was sold. If I needed it, I could have 1080CCA and 2400PCHA running them in parallel. With 42Ah nomial capacity and 78 reserve capacity minutes it would certainly run any fridge I'd need overnight and then some before getting re-charged. Also, a svelt 38.2 lbs, I was gonna be at just shy of 80lbs for both, the same weight as a PC2150.

Shameless plug, but thank you Enersys for sending me the two batteries.

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When it came to controllers/relays/solenoids, I there are ALOT of options. I have been a huge fan of Blue Sea Systems for years and they make some solid 12VDC kit. While a bit on the $$ side, you get what you pay for. I went with the Blue Sea 7622, a 500 Amp magnetic latching (bi-stable) relay which can automatically combines batteries during charging and isolates batteries needed. It draws very low votage, less than 40mA when off and can be configured in a few different isolation modes. The 7622 came with the rocker switch, a nice Contura V, and has the yellow latch on top of the unit itself incase you have any issues with the remote and need to force combine them.

To hold the batteries, I whipped up a bracket out of some 2" 1/8 thick angle iron. Two square nuts and a 7in 3/8x16 bolt work together for the tie down. The top is a piece of 16GA 3/4 square tied together with a chunk of 1/8 flat bar. The ML-ACR is attached via a 16GA bracket, drilled the tapped for some M5 Hex Bolts.

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Once I got it in the truck and test fit, I welded it to the stock sheet metal and gave it a coat of paint.

With the bracket out of the way, I could start working on the wiring. I was going to do the "Big 3" upgrade using 2GA wire. However, after looking at where the - Battery to Chassis/Engine ground was, and not wanting to re-run that cable, I stuck with the OEM stuff which looks dead in between 2GA and 4GA. Automotive jacketing is deceiving. Either way, even with my upgraded alternator @ 130AMPs, still in the specs and ratings for that cable. Also, since I got left post positive batteries, the OEM fusebox, alternator and ground cables all reached where I needed them to go. So that was selling point number two.

So, the wiring is pretty straight forward. Blue Sea gives you great wiring diagrams and if you have any questions, you can call their tech support. I wanted to make sure I could run the unit hoirzontally and also wanted to clarify where is best to pick up my grounds, and they were easy to work with and happy to help.

All of the cables on the 7622 are made from 2GA welding cable. They were all crimped and then soldered then wrapped with flex wrap and heat shrinked. Looks good and works great. I actually laughed at the ones I made for the + Battery to ML-ACR terminals because its pretty much the smallest piece of 2GA I've ever seen. I actually had to cut about 1/4 off of each of the copper cable lugs to get it to fit the distance I needed.

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I got all the big cables done for the ML-ACR, and man oh man I love me some 3/8 screw top terminals. I just converted my old cables to mil style battery terminals before I did this, but I am in love with screw tops now. To easy.

When I was ready to start running the 2 AMP fused line to the control switch, I realized I needed to get my install done on my fuse panel/breaker, as that's where I wanted to take that from. A few hours later and some CAD (cardboard aided design) a bit of plasma cutting and some bending, some grinder and file work, I had a piece of 16GA formed up and ready to go. Design is nothing crazy, but it does what I needed it to do. Holds the Blue Sea 5025, 100AMP 187 Breaker and my switch for my underhood LED's. Also, on the back, I left space for 3 relays to be bolted onto the back.

Here you can see me using a socket as a spacer to figure out height for mounting. I had my fenders off at this moment, so I drilled the side of the truck and put weld nut son the back side. Beats drilling a hole and using self tapping metal screws. Also, with the lack of space in that area, I had to cover one fuse box. Newer Toyotas seem to have moved to one single big fuse box, instead of 3 separate ones. Either way, I can still get the lid off, check the diagram on the top if I am having any issues and if I had to change out something on the back side, all I'd have to do is pop the - on the 5025, + on the breaker and the two M6 bolts holding it in. I've owned the truck for 4 years and the only fuse I've blown was a towing related fuse. Certainly nothing to worry about to leave me stranded.

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Once I got the tray finalized and mounted up, I made the 4GA cables for the fuse block the same was as before. Crimped, soldered, flex wrap and then heat shrunk.

Once the fuse block was installed, and my underhood lights, LED bar and ML-ACR ground was all rounted and out of the way, I could now finish off the in cab wiring for the rocker switch.

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and put the switch in, just below the driver steering wheel. Sits by my right knee. I wanted it a bit out of the way since the two red led's are on when the batteries are combined/charging. I was thinking about wiring it up to my dimmer system in the truck, but I just don't have any good visible spots to put switches anymore, and the ones in the center cubby are ear marked for air compressor/locker switches.

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So that's pretty much it. Very happy with how it turned out. Went for a quick test drive tonight and everything worked flawlessly.

Some final pictures -

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Thanks for reading. Any questions feel free to ask!
 

theBullfrog125

Adventurer
I may end up going this route when I do a dual battery setup in the spring. Very impressive. I like how you fit the 2 batteries in the same location as the previous 1 battery.
 

rickashay

Explorer
Looking great Scott! We should try and meet up in the new year... maybe head West towards Radium for some snow wheeling, or even head down to Crowsnest.
 

tyv12

Adventurer
When do we start the bumper... looks like it's got a cleft palate like that


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wrenchMonkey_

Adventurer
Got started on the bumper today.

Cut the OEM bumper mounts right down the center and then using a pry bar and a hammer, worked them left and right till the welds broke, then ground down the edges, leaving me with a nice flat end. I did not want to take a sawzall to the end of the frame. Should it ever have to go back to stock, I'll just have to re-make the end frame plate with some weld nuts and it will be good to go.

Cut up some 2 x .250 flat bar that I am using to sleeve the inside of the frame. Outside piece is 16in and inside piece of 14.75. Using the OEM frame holes I'll get 3 toonnie sized rosette welds on the outside and 1.5 on the inside. Will take some stress off the frame when winching and I won't worry about the mounting bolts ripping through the 10GA frame.

Re-located my vertical tranny cooler mount 4 inches higher and in the process put a hole through my A/C Condenser. Good times. Oh well its winter. Pulled the 7.5 AMP AC fuse and have a new one on order.

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wrenchMonkey_

Adventurer
Got the insides of both frame horns sleeved up. Tomorrow I'll go to Michaels and pick up some foam board so I can start working on the templates.
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wrenchMonkey_

Adventurer
Started working on the uprights tonight. 3/16 steel used for these pieces. Made up some templates from cardboard first, then transferred it over to some foam core poster board. Once I had what I liked, dragged out a 4x8 sheet of 3/16, realized I'll never get that on the table by myself, so I cut in in half on the floor. Then it was just a matter of cutting it out, touching up the dross on the edges where needed and then welding it all together.

Looks like a Walwrus!

Tomorrow I'll start working on the winch plate and drill some holes in the frame/uprights to start bolting it up.

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GasCan

Observer
Excited about this ...

Little sad that I went and simply bought a bumper. Like I took the easy way out.

I got a feeling I will learn a lot from this.

GC
 
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