RAM5500 CAMPERTHING
OG Portal Member #183
My GUESS would be the wait.
Almost all are built to order and very few people want to wait 2-3 months for a set of wheels.
2019 F350 6.2L 4WD build thread; HPI flatbed, ATO AterraXL composite camper, Carli/King, 37s, 4.88s, etc
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My GUESS would be the wait.
Almost all are built to order and very few people want to wait 2-3 months for a set of wheels.
mk216v
Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Thx for the feedback. What don't you like about the Toyo AT2, and Falken Wildpeak?
Glad to hear your driving isn't as reckless as your typing fingers are--ZING!
Copy on the beef!
You won't believe this, but I'm following your suggestion on tires. It's herding cats to try to guess what my weights will be, and if my tire of choice will be up to the task of supporting the unknown weight.
And fully agree on Trail Ready; great people, we already work with them at work, and they're 30min east of here (they're now owned by Buckstop, and all the TR mills are inside Buckstop now--so you can jump for joy). Crappy thing right now is that Larry's (TR's original owner) ace custom machinist just "retired" the other week, and they're looking for another machinist to build the custom wheels. That being said, they can't do 18" as their aluminum supplier can't provide them with that size, but they can do 17" and 20". I also don't remember their load rating so would have to ask again on that.
I think the price scares many away.
In the mean time, since I updated my post in the D/E load tire thread (where load index is the key information, not specifically D or E load; https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=35), for all of the data/tire nerds, here's an easier view of the tire data I'd been looking at;
37x12.5x17 D/124 (there is a 37x12.5x17 F load in the table too, but it's data looks to be the same as the E load; 3195lbs/F/121 from 50-80psi);
25____30___35___________40____45___50psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116)_3005_3250_3525(D/124)lbs
37x13.5x17 (D/121 or E/121);
25____30___35____40___45____50___________55____60___65psi
2205_2550_2835_2955_3075_3195(D/121)_3195_3195_3195(E/121)lbs
37x12.5x18 E/128;
25____30___35___________40___45____50____________55___60____65psi
2095_2395_2680(C/115)_2915_3150_3415(D/123)_3590_3795_3970(E/128)lbs
37x13.5x18 D/124;
25____30___35____40____45___50psi
2150_2470_2755_3005_3250_3525(D/124)lbs
37x13.5x18 E/128?;
25____30___35____________40___45____50_____________55___60____65psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116?)_3005_3250_3525(D/124?)_3675_3820_3970(E/128)lbs
Since I want to focus on 12.5"W for myself due to Carli's recommendation, and the 37x13.5x18 is worst case for me, let's compare these 3 only;
37x12.5x17 D/124;
25____30___35___________40____45___50psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116)_3005_3250_3525(D/124)lbs
37x12.5x18 E/128;
25____30___35___________40___45____50____________55___60____65psi
2095_2395_2680(C/115)_2915_3150_3415(D/123)_3590_3795_3970(E/128)lbs
37x13.5x18 E/128?;
25____30___35____________40___45____50_____________55___60____65psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116?)_3005_3250_3525(D/124?)_3675_3820_3970(E/128?)lbs
IF the 37x13.5x18 data in this link(https://tirepressure.org/flotation-tire-load-inflation-chart) is valid, then both the 37x12.5x17 D/124 and 37x13.5x18 E/128 allow more load than the 37x12.5x18 E/128.
As well, the 37x12.5x17 D/124 and 37x13.5x18 E/128 offer the same load capacity up to 50psi.
ONLY after 50psi does the 37x13.5x18 E/128 offer more than 3525/lbs per tire capacity; 3675lbs at 55psi, 3820lbs at 60psi, and 3970lbs at 65psi.
So if my actual corner weight is less than ~3000lbs (so I have ~15% buffer room), then either the 37x12.5x17 D/124 and 37x13.5x18 E/128 should work well for my use case.
For now as Kevin mentions, it's a moot point to guess my corner weights and look at tires. I'll wait until my camper is on, everything loaded in/on, weigh it at 2 scales for accuracy, then decide on 17"tires or 18" tires/wheels.
RAM5500 CAMPERTHING
OG Portal Member #183
Good call!
Then when you get your 13k GVWR you can start the tire choosing process all over again, but for duallys!
#babyheadsfordayzzz
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Explorerinil
Observer
What don’t I like… that’s hard they are both excellent tires that have done great for me, I can’t find a complaint on either tire.Thx for the feedback. What don't you like about the Toyo AT2, and Falken Wildpeak?
Glad to hear your driving isn't as reckless as your typing fingers are--ZING!
Copy on the beef!
You won't believe this, but I'm following your suggestion on tires. It's herding cats to try to guess what my weights will be, and if my tire of choice will be up to the task of supporting the unknown weight.
And fully agree on Trail Ready; great people, we already work with them at work, and they're 30min east of here (they're now owned by Buckstop, and all the TR mills are inside Buckstop now--so you can jump for joy). Crappy thing right now is that Larry's (TR's original owner) ace custom machinist just "retired" the other week, and they're looking for another machinist to build the custom wheels. That being said, they can't do 18" as their aluminum supplier can't provide them with that size, but they can do 17" and 20". I also don't remember their load rating so would have to ask again on that.
I think the price scares many away.
In the mean time, since I updated my post in the D/E load tire thread (where load index is the key information, not specifically D or E load; https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=35), for all of the data/tire nerds, here's an easier view of the tire data I'd been looking at;
37x12.5x17 D/124 (there is a 37x12.5x17 F load in the table too, but it's data looks to be the same as the E load; 3195lbs/F/121 from 50-80psi);
25____30___35___________40____45___50psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116)_3005_3250_3525(D/124)lbs
37x13.5x17 (D/121 or E/121);
25____30___35____40___45____50___________55____60___65psi
2205_2550_2835_2955_3075_3195(D/121)_3195_3195_3195(E/121)lbs
37x12.5x18 E/128;
25____30___35___________40___45____50____________55___60____65psi
2095_2395_2680(C/115)_2915_3150_3415(D/123)_3590_3795_3970(E/128)lbs
37x13.5x18 D/124;
25____30___35____40____45___50psi
2150_2470_2755_3005_3250_3525(D/124)lbs
37x13.5x18 E/128?;
25____30___35____________40___45____50_____________55___60____65psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116?)_3005_3250_3525(D/124?)_3675_3820_3970(E/128)lbs
Since I want to focus on 12.5"W for myself due to Carli's recommendation, and the 37x13.5x18 is worst case for me, let's compare these 3 only;
37x12.5x17 D/124;
25____30___35___________40____45___50psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116)_3005_3250_3525(D/124)lbs
37x12.5x18 E/128;
25____30___35___________40___45____50____________55___60____65psi
2095_2395_2680(C/115)_2915_3150_3415(D/123)_3590_3795_3970(E/128)lbs
37x13.5x18 E/128?;
25____30___35____________40___45____50_____________55___60____65psi
2150_2470_2755(C/116?)_3005_3250_3525(D/124?)_3675_3820_3970(E/128?)lbs
IF the 37x13.5x18 data in this link(https://tirepressure.org/flotation-tire-load-inflation-chart) is valid, then both the 37x12.5x17 D/124 and 37x13.5x18 E/128 allow more load than the 37x12.5x18 E/128.
As well, the 37x12.5x17 D/124 and 37x13.5x18 E/128 offer the same load capacity up to 50psi.
ONLY after 50psi does the 37x13.5x18 E/128 offer more than 3525/lbs per tire capacity; 3675lbs at 55psi, 3820lbs at 60psi, and 3970lbs at 65psi.
So if my actual corner weight is less than ~3000lbs (so I have ~15% buffer room), then either the 37x12.5x17 D/124 and 37x13.5x18 E/128 should work well for my use case.
For now as Kevin mentions, it's a moot point to guess my corner weights and look at tires. I'll wait until my camper is on, everything loaded in/on, weigh it at 2 scales for accuracy, then decide on 17"tires or 18" tires/wheels.
mk216v
Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Whatevs TacoKing.
Ok, good to hear. A few previously had mentioned that the Falken Wildpeak wasn't great in heavier mud(of course it's not a true mud tire). It's also only a 2ply sidewall like the Toyo AT3.
Explorerinil
Observer
It isnt a mud tire, but it cleaned out pretty well with some wheel spin. I got my falken s in some heavy clay, they did gum up, but didn’t hold the mud like a bfg at. The Toyo at3’s, I can’t comment on them in mud.Whatevs TacoKing.
Ok, good to hear. A few previously had mentioned that the Falken Wildpeak wasn't great in heavier mud(of course it's not a true mud tire). It's also only a 2ply sidewall like the Toyo AT3.
mk216v
Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Good to know thx.
Truck is currently getting tint, vinyl, and light protection film. Should be done by next week.
Then Carli suspension.
AterraXL update; looking like it might be done at the end of April or beginning of May. Looking forward to it!
mk216v
Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Kittens I tell you, friggin kittens!!!
While the truck was stored in an urban/fenced/barbed wire area awaiting transport to susp install, some crackhead stole my (secondary) cats. All they left for me was one loud azz truck, missing/damaged rear O2 sensors, damaged tranny pan, damaged tranny cooler line, and the change that fell out of their pocket--a pittance! I realize this isn't news to anyone anymore these days, but it pisses me right off. Jan 1st legislation doesn't appear to be slowing these crooks. Also throws a wrench into the works, no pun intended, as I'm now on an even tighter timeline...was holding off on sharing this but Oregon Adventure Trucks needs me to have everything ready to go (susp/wheels&tires/camper/4underbed boxes on, etc) by mid May for a magazine photoshoot with them (the truck won't have the vinyl graphics livery by then as that design/implentation will take some time). Aggh, first world problems eh?
Back to tires; based on the short timeline before the photoshoot, I had to spring for 17" tires without first having axle weights. Went with the Yoko Geolandar X-AT in 37x12.5x17(124Q/D), and glad I ordered when I did as multiple initial sources were already sold out with no more stock coming until June. Once the truck/camper/boxes are all loaded, I'll weigh GVW/FAW/RAW, and if I find that I need to move to an 18" wheel/tire(E load), then I'l do so then and sell the 17" set.
Good news is that the AterraXL is painted white, and they're moving on to interior installation. Should be just a short time now before it's complete.
I'll report back and update some rig pictures once the susp/wheels&tires are on. For now, I'll leave you with this sad sight;
While the truck was stored in an urban/fenced/barbed wire area awaiting transport to susp install, some crackhead stole my (secondary) cats.
All they left for me was one loud azz truck, missing/damaged rear O2 sensors, damaged tranny pan, damaged tranny cooler line, and the change that fell out of their pocket--a pittance! I realize this isn't news to anyone anymore these days, but it pisses me right off. Jan 1st legislation doesn't appear to be slowing these crooks. Also throws a wrench into the works, no pun intended, as I'm now on an even tighter timeline...was holding off on sharing this but Oregon Adventure Trucks needs me to have everything ready to go (susp/wheels&tires/camper/4underbed boxes on, etc) by mid May for a magazine photoshoot with them (the truck won't have the vinyl graphics livery by then as that design/implentation will take some time). Aggh, first world problems eh?Back to tires; based on the short timeline before the photoshoot, I had to spring for 17" tires without first having axle weights. Went with the Yoko Geolandar X-AT in 37x12.5x17(124Q/D), and glad I ordered when I did as multiple initial sources were already sold out with no more stock coming until June. Once the truck/camper/boxes are all loaded, I'll weigh GVW/FAW/RAW, and if I find that I need to move to an 18" wheel/tire(E load), then I'l do so then and sell the 17" set.
Good news is that the AterraXL is painted white, and they're moving on to interior installation. Should be just a short time now before it's complete.
I'll report back and update some rig pictures once the susp/wheels&tires are on. For now, I'll leave you with this sad sight;
RAM5500 CAMPERTHING
OG Portal Member #183
Yikes. Sorry to see this. It’s become insanely common in my area and many cats are on forever backorder from the dealers. Hopefully you can get this resolved asap.
Mine is super exposed, obvious and would be super easy to steal, for now I’m just hoping they don’t drive by my house before I get my side boxes that will somewhat hide it. I live on a small street and about 1/3 of my neighbors have had either their cats stolen or fuel tanks drilled (yes, that’s a thing now). Sucks.
A couple weeks ago, a few miles away a dude stealing a cat had the jack collapse and car crushed and killed him, so that was kinda cool. Wish it happened more honestly.
In other news:
Rushing a tire decision for a photoshoot is the pinnacle of “Overlanderisms”.
You’re a legend in that aspect sir
Mine is super exposed, obvious and would be super easy to steal, for now I’m just hoping they don’t drive by my house before I get my side boxes that will somewhat hide it. I live on a small street and about 1/3 of my neighbors have had either their cats stolen or fuel tanks drilled (yes, that’s a thing now). Sucks.
A couple weeks ago, a few miles away a dude stealing a cat had the jack collapse and car crushed and killed him, so that was kinda cool. Wish it happened more honestly.
In other news:
Rushing a tire decision for a photoshoot is the pinnacle of “Overlanderisms”.
You’re a legend in that aspect sir
mk216v
Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Yikes, time to employ your laser alert system before your shiz gets jacked. And fuel tank drilling too??
Oh wow, some justice!
In other news; glad that I'm a legend in some way, however if you haven't been following, @montypower has been running his (fairly heavy) F350/full hard sided camper on the exact same tires, MUCH harder and for longer than I will be even for a magazine shoot. Once I'm loaded up with gear, if I find that I need 18s, I move to 18s and sell the 17s. I don't see the problem sir.
Explorerinil
Observer
You said crack heads… as a police officer I’ll correct you, those are meth heads now. Lol
mk216v
Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
You're correct, but I use them interchangeably since I'm a slightly older generation at this point.
RAM5500 CAMPERTHING
OG Portal Member #183
It’s been going on here in SoCal for about a year now.
But in the last month with the gas prices going insane, it’s become super common.
Old coworker told me their entire fleet of 9 trucks had their tanks drilled over the weekend a few weeks ago right at the office.
Society is collapsing and it’s sad
Tex68w
Beach Bum
Yep, elections/votes have real consequences.