Metcalf
Expedition Leader
and? Does every one no. Does the large majority, no.
2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 3.0L EcoDiesel
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and? Does every one no. Does the large majority, no.
MOguy
Explorer
Most people I know who have Jeeps with coil sprung axles have. 2 guys at work have newer 3/4 dodges and one 3/4 ton Ford. All have shimmies on the way to work if the drive over the same bumps on the same bridge on the way to work and all have had DW. The 2 with the 3/4 ton GMs with IFS have not. Nobody with 1/2 tons has them, I have never had them in my 79 K30. The conversation comes up often at work.
T-Willy
Well-known member
I agree--the sport diesel is remarkable value. I love how down-specd it is. The fewer fancy electro-bits the better. Not paying for them, even moreso.
Simple, sturdy, capable, efficient, great range, steelies, roll windows and under 40K. Add tall skinnies, locker(s) and an Ursa Minor pop-top and you're still in for less--perhaps far less--than an up-specd Rubicon.
Well done, Jeep. (This from a 27-yr original Land Cruiser owner).
pittsburgh
tacocat
Just over $40k with a hardtop. Not too shabby, but I would like to know if I can add a factory rear locker.
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
That's nice. You should talk about how to fix it at work instead of droning on and on about it.
If the problem comes up, fix it. This isn't rocket science.
There are MILLIONS of vehicles on the road with coil springs and beam axles that don't have issues. My own vehicles included.
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
From what I have seen with the JL housing, yes. You could install a factory E-locker in the housing. If you wanted the factory wiring plug connection passing through the housing you would have to pull the housing out for modification, if you just want to pass the wires like any normal E-locker install it could be done in the vehicle ( drill a hole, rubber plug, silicone sealant ).
The factory E-lockers are available in the aftermarket already.....and the price isn't even that bad.
This one is listed as the front ( but I think they are the same part number )
GB_Willys_2014
Well-known member
Hahaha
I have similar ideas, well dreams, but you know ... I would go TrueTracs but similar enough.
Sport-diesel could be a sleeper ... if the reliability is reasonable.
T-Willy
Well-known member
I wish it had more payload. And, honestly, the reliability question gives me pause (my 27 yr old LC is still dead reliable). Time will tell on reliability. Regardless, what a great offering from Jeep.
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
Sadly, the development of aftermarket differentials for the AdvanTEK axles has been slow.
I haven't seen any limited slips offered yet other than the factory Trash-Lok style diff.
T-Willy
Well-known member
EPA fuel economy rating is out: 22/29/25
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...-economy-epa-rated-29-mpg-highway-139947.html
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...-economy-epa-rated-29-mpg-highway-139947.html
MOguy
Explorer
Seems aftermarket double steering stabilizer is helping with the guys at work with the Dodges.
The guy with the Ford, who has taken it back to them multiple times, is also working on a solution. He now working with the attorney and going after the Lemon Law.
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Dan Grec
Expedition Leader
Very, very interesting. It's actually not as high as the export JL with a 2.2 L diesel, though I'll bet the Australian ones are testing using a different methodology so it's not apples to apples.
I can't wait until people start getting the 3.0 Wrangler and put 35s and some weight on it to see what that does to mileage. If it can hold 25 highway, that's a game changer for me.
-Dan
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Rbertalotto
Explorer
Tow rating is ALWAYS dictated by payload rating. 15 - 20% or trailer weight must be on tow ball. With a 1200-1500 payload it doesn’t leave much for hitch weight once you load passengers and gear into the tow vehicle. Doesn’t matter how much torque or HP the engine has. This is where most smaller diesel vehicles fall short.
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
I do think there is a lot more going on with .gov 'rules' effecting how smaller vehicles are getting rated for payload ( and towing ). It would be nice to see smaller vehicles being built with more margin, but I just don't think we are going to get an 'offical' blessing on that from the OEMs.
Rbertalotto
Explorer
For smaller vehicles to be able to tow heavier trailers, it would take sophisticated active suspensions. If they were set up to handle 1000-1500 pounds of hitch weight, they would be nearly uncontrollable when not towing. For the vehicle to "ride nice" and hold the road when not towing,they need supple suspensions ....... supple suspensions do not lend themselves to high hitch weights. Not to mention what a short wheelbase does to towing handling.....