Rover De Land
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Ok so I have posted this question before I ever upgraded from stock 235/70
My preference: 235/85/16
So I was stuck for months between these two sizes, only having gone bigger in tires on my previous 4runner I was stuck with the bigger is better mentality.
I finally went and ordered 255/85 km2s when they came in I rushed to the tire shop squeezed them in there and went home. I was already dissatisfied, the tires were way too big.I figured nothing a lift can't fix. So I ordered a two inch body lift they sent me a 1" and I didn't feel like fighting I wanted it on now.
So about a month goes by and I get a job out of state [from louisiana to illinois] take my truck up there and encounter hills and very bendy roads.
Hills:
Truck was weak enough stock, the louisiana roads didn't bother me too much but with the bigger tires up here I was SICK of my truck down shifting for every little hill [I know I could have regeared]
Curves:
Truck handled like CRAP, granted Im running no sway bars, never had a problem till I installed these tires, I suppose the added hight gave the top end more leverage but also one morning on the way to work I took a curve a little too fast [LITTLE too fast] came around the bend and almost went off the road MULTIPLE times.
I dont know the exact terminology for this but it was like I would come around a left hand curve turn the wheel to the right to straigten back out but its still going left so I go MORE right and finally after what feels like forever the truck decides ok now its time to go right, TOOO FAR RIGHT so I steer to the left while the truck continues to go right.
I was oversteering but it felt like the truck would take forever to catch up.
As far as the BFG in specific I hated the look. The section width is 255mm but the actual tread width was 235mm and the side lugs came down way to far on the sidewall. Having owned 285/75 that looked nothing like this it must because of the 85 ratio.
Now on to the Kelly Safari TSR..
I originally wanted Goodyear MT/R but the new kevlars weren't made in this size and the old ones were all sold out.
I saw the duratracs and they were 800$ mounted and balanced, I saw the kelly alternative they looked more agressive deeper and bigger voids and the tread pattern looked better IMO. They were 720 installed.
I ordered the Safari TSR and got them installed yesterday, I immediately took them offroading though some pretty technical terrain. I was impressed, I could only SLIGHTLY tell the difference between the safari and tsr, but all the pros of the tsr outweighed the km2's I loved them so much I ordered a spare!
km2's vs safari tsr's [yes I realize there two totally different tires and two totally different sizes]
Wear: I have no clue how the TSR's wear but honestly at the price I dont think I can go wrong. However I do believe the KM2's would last longer.
Onroad handling: 235 TSR's kick the km2's butt Like night and day
Looks: TSRs look WAY better in 85 ratio than the km2's. The tsr's surprisingly
do NOT look pizza cutter for a 235/85 they are a very wide 235
Offroad: Slight advantage to the km2's. Now in mud the km2's will probably have a bigger advantage but with all the climbing I did with my TSR's they kept up just fine.
Noise: BIG advantage to the Safari TSR's, the km2's were quite loud. Not that I cared because I enjoyed their sound but the TSR's are way quieter [of course there more of an A/T
I really see the TSR's as a cheaper better alternative to the duratracs. They are slightly more aggressive and are more of a hybrid than an all terrain.
If compared to the BFG A/T the tsr's look like they have WAY more traction.
My preference: 235/85/16
So I was stuck for months between these two sizes, only having gone bigger in tires on my previous 4runner I was stuck with the bigger is better mentality.
I finally went and ordered 255/85 km2s when they came in I rushed to the tire shop squeezed them in there and went home. I was already dissatisfied, the tires were way too big.I figured nothing a lift can't fix. So I ordered a two inch body lift they sent me a 1" and I didn't feel like fighting I wanted it on now.
So about a month goes by and I get a job out of state [from louisiana to illinois] take my truck up there and encounter hills and very bendy roads.
Hills:
Truck was weak enough stock, the louisiana roads didn't bother me too much but with the bigger tires up here I was SICK of my truck down shifting for every little hill [I know I could have regeared]
Curves:
Truck handled like CRAP, granted Im running no sway bars, never had a problem till I installed these tires, I suppose the added hight gave the top end more leverage but also one morning on the way to work I took a curve a little too fast [LITTLE too fast] came around the bend and almost went off the road MULTIPLE times.
I dont know the exact terminology for this but it was like I would come around a left hand curve turn the wheel to the right to straigten back out but its still going left so I go MORE right and finally after what feels like forever the truck decides ok now its time to go right, TOOO FAR RIGHT so I steer to the left while the truck continues to go right.
I was oversteering but it felt like the truck would take forever to catch up.
As far as the BFG in specific I hated the look. The section width is 255mm but the actual tread width was 235mm and the side lugs came down way to far on the sidewall. Having owned 285/75 that looked nothing like this it must because of the 85 ratio.
Now on to the Kelly Safari TSR..
I originally wanted Goodyear MT/R but the new kevlars weren't made in this size and the old ones were all sold out.
I saw the duratracs and they were 800$ mounted and balanced, I saw the kelly alternative they looked more agressive deeper and bigger voids and the tread pattern looked better IMO. They were 720 installed.
I ordered the Safari TSR and got them installed yesterday, I immediately took them offroading though some pretty technical terrain. I was impressed, I could only SLIGHTLY tell the difference between the safari and tsr, but all the pros of the tsr outweighed the km2's I loved them so much I ordered a spare!
km2's vs safari tsr's [yes I realize there two totally different tires and two totally different sizes]
Wear: I have no clue how the TSR's wear but honestly at the price I dont think I can go wrong. However I do believe the KM2's would last longer.
Onroad handling: 235 TSR's kick the km2's butt Like night and day
Looks: TSRs look WAY better in 85 ratio than the km2's. The tsr's surprisingly
do NOT look pizza cutter for a 235/85 they are a very wide 235
Offroad: Slight advantage to the km2's. Now in mud the km2's will probably have a bigger advantage but with all the climbing I did with my TSR's they kept up just fine.
Noise: BIG advantage to the Safari TSR's, the km2's were quite loud. Not that I cared because I enjoyed their sound but the TSR's are way quieter [of course there more of an A/T
I really see the TSR's as a cheaper better alternative to the duratracs. They are slightly more aggressive and are more of a hybrid than an all terrain.
If compared to the BFG A/T the tsr's look like they have WAY more traction.
