FrenchieXJ
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This is a blast from the past, I do not believe I ever posted it on the forum? Either way this is a quick story.
Copper Canyon 2022 “The Shades of the Canyons”!
Well one of the best adventures I have taken.
What I have always said, comes around again! I have struggled during some adventures over the years, as they never are the same. The people you are with, make all of the adventures OK, Good or Fantastic! This was Fantastic!
I am tired today as I try and catch my breath. I got home at around 4:45 AM after a 750 mile drive (with 400 miles of it in Mexico) and a border wait of 1hour and 50 minutes wait at the border. The trip was for me was a 2,500 mile adventure drive over just over 2 weeks. I will get writing up a report in the coming weeks.
The background leading up to this adventure.
It was over 40 years ago that I have a friend talking about a trip that they took by way of a train into the Mexico mountains. I got interested about this adventure, as I love trains.
I got my friends and some other “Fukarwe”* friends for a adventure that was to change my life! My friends had never driven into this area and only passed through the area on the train.
*The “Fukarwe” group is a unorganized group of outdoor people. Who ever wanted to do a trip or related outdoor experance they would contact the others and just do it. No Meetings, no dues. We would generally make up a Tee shirt for the event. Everyone would get one who attended. Our mascot was a Indian, always doing different things. Generally he was holding a broken bow in one hand. When I put the trip together I took and had him standing on a concrete pillar. The one side cast into the pilar is the letters “U.S.” and on the other side is MEX..These were placed along the border between the countries. They were spaced about a mile apart. We would drive right past them on out adventures.
For most of my life when we were going to Baja California would cross the border out in the desert. It would depend where we were going whether this was our crossing spot or the regular border crossings. We used this for our quick crossings. Yes, we did bring out the Border Patrol on occasions. Generally they would get on a high observation point and watch us. Some times they would sit their and we would drive up to them.
Back to Copper Canyon and the “Shades of the Canyons.
We had some Topo maps of the area, and that was all I could find. There were no roads and only scattered dots on the maps. These dots were from a house to ranchos. This map was last updated in 1960.
Not knowing the area at all I built a small trailer, about the size of a M-416. I built the trailer with a aluminum camper top and a pull out kitchen for the trip. It was able to carry 20 gallons of water and 30 gallons of fuel. This also allowed 2 people to sleep in the camper shell and one below with the kitchen pulled out. We had to use it on a couple of nights at full capacity for sleeping and for shelter from the cold weather.
This adventure covered temperatures from below freezing to 110 degrees. Fires to fun. Climbing out of vehicles jumping into cool waters to cool down and climbing back into vehicles soaking wet, driving wet looking onward to the next river.
This was the adventure of a life time! We had laughs difference of opinions and moments of just WOW!!!.
I could not forget this place, as I had gotten “it got under my skin”. Just a place in my heart that has kept me coming back.
With well over 100 trips into this place I still keep learning and sharing. With my Driving School business growing I had request about places to go with the clients skills they had learned. I expanded my adventures into Mexico to share my experiences with others. This became very popular and I was doing up to 5 trips a year for clients (and myself).
Well a number of years back and some health problems I thought I had taken my last adventure into the “Barrancas del Cobre” and the Sierra Madre Mis. of Mexico. I have been lucky that with some medical advancements, I have been able to keep going.
This has lead me to the 2022 years trip. I have been asked by friends to let them know if I was going
again as they wanted to go. I contacted them and we had a group of over 6 vehicles with interest in going. As life is, things happen and we go with 3 vehicles instead.
I was a bit disappointed as I had a couple of them that I was hoping to share all of the information with that I had collected over the years. With the information in my head it goes away when I go. I was hopping that I could get a person to take over the adventures and keep sharing this with others. As with all of us our days are numbered and we do not know what our lucky number is. Back at the ranch the people who I had hoped could continue this life going were unable to make the trip.
Well today! With the adventure behind us and the memories of the fantastic group of 5 people telling stories, laughs, B.S. experiences behind us, I will share some of it with you. Many photos were taken by the others, I am busy doing many other things to take pictures. I have all of them and many more in my mind, I know what I have seen. I was asked by a friend (Russ) if he could ride with me. I said yes but he had to be the trip photographer, He did take over 1,100 photos. The others in the group may post their photos themselves. Also a magazine is going to have a article about this trip in it in the future.
We then had Mike who was my Autohome RTT sponsor of mine when I was working (and a long time friend).
We had Chris and Anne from the I4WDTA (International 4 Wheel Drive Trainers Association) and long time friends.
I brought a traveling companion with me. Russ is sort of related by a strange way. Because of being a friend, adoption, marriage, 4X4 wheeling nut and part of the 5 generations alive family tree understand this there is a song on You Tube that best describes it.
With some last minute changes to the departure date we meet in Arizona to get paper work done and meet up. I was there for the formal meeting and dinner in style. Early in the morning we get the proper paper work done for the adventure. We are officially on our way for the wilds of Mexico.
We go to a favorite place of mine. We head to the lodge where we plan to spend the night. The place was filled with people celebrating a birthday party of one of the children. It was hard to get a count of the children and adult people their for the celebration. I would guess at least 50 people plus dogs. We were welcomed into the party like family. The time for pinata arrives and the beatings commenced.
Our first steps get us into the ruins of the past culture of the first people of this area. Thousands of years ago some as old as 5,000 years ago is in front of us. Some of us get mud up to our hands. We create our own pieces of what may become some ones treasures in the times to be determined by those who find it. Chris get his hands into the clay of Mata Ortiz (Paquime style pottery). With a life of training behind him of training in other areas and not pottery Chris turns out a true piece of art. (Art is in the eyes of the creator). All kidding behind it was good.
Limited by size!
Copper Canyon 2022 “The Shades of the Canyons”!
Well one of the best adventures I have taken.
What I have always said, comes around again! I have struggled during some adventures over the years, as they never are the same. The people you are with, make all of the adventures OK, Good or Fantastic! This was Fantastic!
I am tired today as I try and catch my breath. I got home at around 4:45 AM after a 750 mile drive (with 400 miles of it in Mexico) and a border wait of 1hour and 50 minutes wait at the border. The trip was for me was a 2,500 mile adventure drive over just over 2 weeks. I will get writing up a report in the coming weeks.
The background leading up to this adventure.
It was over 40 years ago that I have a friend talking about a trip that they took by way of a train into the Mexico mountains. I got interested about this adventure, as I love trains.
I got my friends and some other “Fukarwe”* friends for a adventure that was to change my life! My friends had never driven into this area and only passed through the area on the train.
*The “Fukarwe” group is a unorganized group of outdoor people. Who ever wanted to do a trip or related outdoor experance they would contact the others and just do it. No Meetings, no dues. We would generally make up a Tee shirt for the event. Everyone would get one who attended. Our mascot was a Indian, always doing different things. Generally he was holding a broken bow in one hand. When I put the trip together I took and had him standing on a concrete pillar. The one side cast into the pilar is the letters “U.S.” and on the other side is MEX..These were placed along the border between the countries. They were spaced about a mile apart. We would drive right past them on out adventures.
For most of my life when we were going to Baja California would cross the border out in the desert. It would depend where we were going whether this was our crossing spot or the regular border crossings. We used this for our quick crossings. Yes, we did bring out the Border Patrol on occasions. Generally they would get on a high observation point and watch us. Some times they would sit their and we would drive up to them.
Back to Copper Canyon and the “Shades of the Canyons.
We had some Topo maps of the area, and that was all I could find. There were no roads and only scattered dots on the maps. These dots were from a house to ranchos. This map was last updated in 1960.
Not knowing the area at all I built a small trailer, about the size of a M-416. I built the trailer with a aluminum camper top and a pull out kitchen for the trip. It was able to carry 20 gallons of water and 30 gallons of fuel. This also allowed 2 people to sleep in the camper shell and one below with the kitchen pulled out. We had to use it on a couple of nights at full capacity for sleeping and for shelter from the cold weather.
This adventure covered temperatures from below freezing to 110 degrees. Fires to fun. Climbing out of vehicles jumping into cool waters to cool down and climbing back into vehicles soaking wet, driving wet looking onward to the next river.
This was the adventure of a life time! We had laughs difference of opinions and moments of just WOW!!!.
I could not forget this place, as I had gotten “it got under my skin”. Just a place in my heart that has kept me coming back.
With well over 100 trips into this place I still keep learning and sharing. With my Driving School business growing I had request about places to go with the clients skills they had learned. I expanded my adventures into Mexico to share my experiences with others. This became very popular and I was doing up to 5 trips a year for clients (and myself).
Well a number of years back and some health problems I thought I had taken my last adventure into the “Barrancas del Cobre” and the Sierra Madre Mis. of Mexico. I have been lucky that with some medical advancements, I have been able to keep going.
This has lead me to the 2022 years trip. I have been asked by friends to let them know if I was going
again as they wanted to go. I contacted them and we had a group of over 6 vehicles with interest in going. As life is, things happen and we go with 3 vehicles instead.
I was a bit disappointed as I had a couple of them that I was hoping to share all of the information with that I had collected over the years. With the information in my head it goes away when I go. I was hopping that I could get a person to take over the adventures and keep sharing this with others. As with all of us our days are numbered and we do not know what our lucky number is. Back at the ranch the people who I had hoped could continue this life going were unable to make the trip.
Well today! With the adventure behind us and the memories of the fantastic group of 5 people telling stories, laughs, B.S. experiences behind us, I will share some of it with you. Many photos were taken by the others, I am busy doing many other things to take pictures. I have all of them and many more in my mind, I know what I have seen. I was asked by a friend (Russ) if he could ride with me. I said yes but he had to be the trip photographer, He did take over 1,100 photos. The others in the group may post their photos themselves. Also a magazine is going to have a article about this trip in it in the future.
We then had Mike who was my Autohome RTT sponsor of mine when I was working (and a long time friend).
We had Chris and Anne from the I4WDTA (International 4 Wheel Drive Trainers Association) and long time friends.
I brought a traveling companion with me. Russ is sort of related by a strange way. Because of being a friend, adoption, marriage, 4X4 wheeling nut and part of the 5 generations alive family tree understand this there is a song on You Tube that best describes it.
With some last minute changes to the departure date we meet in Arizona to get paper work done and meet up. I was there for the formal meeting and dinner in style. Early in the morning we get the proper paper work done for the adventure. We are officially on our way for the wilds of Mexico.
We go to a favorite place of mine. We head to the lodge where we plan to spend the night. The place was filled with people celebrating a birthday party of one of the children. It was hard to get a count of the children and adult people their for the celebration. I would guess at least 50 people plus dogs. We were welcomed into the party like family. The time for pinata arrives and the beatings commenced.
Our first steps get us into the ruins of the past culture of the first people of this area. Thousands of years ago some as old as 5,000 years ago is in front of us. Some of us get mud up to our hands. We create our own pieces of what may become some ones treasures in the times to be determined by those who find it. Chris get his hands into the clay of Mata Ortiz (Paquime style pottery). With a life of training behind him of training in other areas and not pottery Chris turns out a true piece of art. (Art is in the eyes of the creator). All kidding behind it was good.
Limited by size!
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