A strap is a strap...

[PhulesAU]

Color coding is a wonderful thing...... Provided you actually use it often enough, you don't have to look it up once a year.. A good rigging shop will know what you need/want as soon as you explain what you are going to use it for. For a small free, I'm willing to perform research in a desert.:sombrero:

 

[hillbillyjake]

thanks for the reasearch squid. i really like the color coding idea. that would simplify everything. but i think it would have to become an industry standard to be effective. if that would happen, that would make things alot easier on everybody.

 

[Master-Pull]

ARB Snatch straps work great, but I have not had very much luck with them stretching. If you are truly looking for a kinetic strap (or rope) check our out Super Yankers, as many of you know they stretch up to 30% when properly used.

-Alex

 

[hillbillyjake]

ARB Snatch straps work great, but I have not had very much luck with them stretching.

-Alex

so are you saying they don't stretch at all or not as much as your super yanker?

 

[Honu]

ARB Snatch straps work great, but I have not had very much luck with them stretching. If you are truly looking for a kinetic strap (or rope) check our out Super Yankers, as many of you know they stretch up to 30% when properly used.

-Alex

curious what rating one you have ?
is it the heavy one ? if so maybe not enough energy to get it to stretch ?

 

[Antichrist]

Seems odd that they go to all the effort to color code them, then use the exact same label on all three "ARB Recovery".
So if you don't know the color coding, you still can't quickly tell which is which.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Seems odd that they go to all the effort to color code them, then use the exact same label on all three "ARB Recovery".
So if you don't know the color coding, you still can't quickly tell which is which.

Extremely intuitive.

The tree savers are very short, the straps nominal length and the winch extension extremely long.



(if that isn't easy enough the white label sewn to the strap does indicate which it is )

 

[teotwaki]

I recently purchased a new Fiber Link strap from the Overland Warehouse, a model 22029 that has a 30,000 pound Breaking Strength (Working Load Limit of 10,000 pounds) and measures 3" x 30' and weighs in at 5.2 pounds. It is really burly!


I will compare it with my $25 "Keeper" brand strap that has a 15,000 pound Breaking Strength (Working Load Limit of 7,000 pounds) and measures 2" x 20'


The inexpensive Keeper strap does work. I assisted a 2WD Ford F-250 crew cab recently and it is a 7,000 pound curb weight vehicle if I got the specs correct.


But that was probably putting the strap at it's working limits! That was one reason I purchased the Fiber Link strap. It really measures at 1" wider


The end loops are most impressive, partially folded to fit standard recovery shackles and heavily reinforced and sewn




And the webbing material is just several cuts above the Keeper


Note that the Fiber Link strap even has a built-in elastic loop to keep it from unravelling once it is rolled up, a very thoughtful touch!

Bottom line: With a Fiber Link strap you'll be purchasing a very high quality strap that will give you long and reliable service without having to worry if it is rated highly enough :bigok:

 

[teotwaki]

An ARB strap is a snatch strap that has stretch, the stretch will give a little more power to the pull and will soften the harsh jerk you would get with a static strap.

A tow strap has no stretch, and you will get a hard jerk when the strap is pulled tight.

It is like comparing a dynamic climbing rope that you can take a big fall on to a static rope that you buy at a hardware store. No comparison.

When it comes to rope you get what you pay for.

There is a towing strap with additional stretch to manage the non-stretching tow line. Black Rat (Oz) has one

Black Rat Towing Kit

The Black Rat Towing Kit will allow you to tow a disabled vehicle long distances, even through difficult terrain without the fear of dragging or running over the tow strap. Strong bungee cords inside the protective sheath allow the tow strap to expand and contract as the tow vehicles move closer or farther apart. The sheath protects the tow strap from abrasions just in case the unit drags on the ground. With a capacity of 26000lbs, the Black Rat Towing Kit is an ideal item for recovery. Snatch straps should not be used as towing straps, as they lose their stretching capability after prolonged towing. Chains are jerky and also get damaged quickly if dragged on the ground. With its built in bungee cords, the Black Rat Towing Kit also keeps the tow vehicle from running over the tow strap, hence avoiding dangerous situations where the tow strap may wrap around the brake lines. Contracted length is 12' and expanded length is 20'.
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[p1michaud]

Why spend the money on a quality snatch strap - ARB or Other...

Is there a write-up or detailed explaination about why you should spend the extra few bucks to get a good recovery strap?

Jamie,
Last year I read an excellent review by Australian 4WD Action (Issue No. 128) where they completed a very in depth Snatch Strap Comparo. They tested 18 different straps from 10 different suppliers. They tested both in the lab as well as in the field and just for fun what impact the following had on strap strength:

1. Wet and muddy snatch strap
2. Salt water and sandy snatch strap
3. Used snatch strap
4. Cut snatch strap
5. Twisted snatch strap
6. Knotted snatch strap
7. Oversize pin in eylet

I won't ruin all the fun for you before you read the article (if you can get your hands on it) but only 8 of 18 got the "recommended" tick of approval and of those ARB got that for every one of their straps (8000, 11000 & 15000 Kg). Keep in mind that this was for Australian brand straps but I believe most of them are available in the US.

...the ARB & Viking recovery straps are built and tested to a rigorous standard specifically for recovery, and assigned a specific rating, etc. etc.

If it were my money, you'd be hard pressed to convince me to change from ARB when it comes to recovery gear although Viking, Master Pull and others seems to have some great gear just never put my hands on their stuff so I can't comment from first hand experience.

Does anybody know where to find that info real quick, so I can answer a **************'s question intelligently, and back it up with hard facts?

Don't waist your time as long as no one is in a situation where they will get hurt...

Cheers,
P

 

[greentruck]

The local rural big box has an array of straps on their shelf. All are yellow, so I suspect they haven't heard of their competitors' agreement.

There are tow straps and recovery straps and tree savers. Wide range of costs, lengths, and widths. Most were from the same manufacturer. I was just window shopping.

I have 3 straps I carry and believe they are all snatch straps. Mainly because they between 2 and 3 decades old. The weave is different from today's straps, a higher quality, finer weave. Maybe I just haven't looked at enough new, expensive ones:Wow1:

One has a double-back knot in it, since it lost one end many years ago. Another has a knot somewhere in the middle that got so tight I could never get it loose again. The third one is just dirty and tired. I use them carefully, given they are somewhat old and decrepit like I am. Pretty much don't do recovery except with a winch, which works where I generally travel.

If I was going to the desert, I would definitely invest in a high-quality snatch strap. Glad the big names are going to a standard system of marking. But I'll manage somehow.:costumed-smiley-007

What I'd like to know is how to tell which is which by the weave of the strap. Is that even possible? Be good info to have, as most straps I see don't have a fancy pedigree and that could help with choosing in a pinch.

 

[Antichrist]

Extremely intuitive.

Yes, to those of us who've been doing this stuff for a while.

(if that isn't easy enough the white label sewn to the strap does indicate which it is )

True, but then what's the point of the color coding?
LOL Honestly, I don't really care one way or the other. If it's my gear I'm going to know which is which, and if it's someone else's I'm going to inspect it before I use it. I just think it's odd making a big deal of color coding, then using the same label on all of them.

Now the hidden fibers that become exposed when a strap's WLL is exceeded, that's a good idea.

 

[ntsqd]

snip....

Now the hidden fibers that become exposed when a strap's WLL is exceeded, that's a good idea.

I thought that was an ages-old standard from any quality mfg. It's not?

 

[Antichrist]

I know some slings for rigging had them, didn't really notice if recovery strap folks used them.

 

[Master-Pull]

so are you saying they don't stretch at all or not as much as your super yanker?

They stretch, I have just gotten more stretch out of our Super Yankers then any strap. If you look on the ARB website it lists the snatch strap having 20% stretch, our Super Yankers are rated to 30% stretch.

curious what rating one you have ?
is it the heavy one ? if so maybe not enough energy to get it to stretch ?

I was using a buddies, but I am nearly certain it was the 17000lb rated one.

-Alex