Advice on finding the right adventure vehicle sub $5000

boxcar1

boxcar1
A post 1997 Jeep Cherokee4 door . 4.0 Straight 6...... ( not the Grand Cherokee )
Finding a low mile rust free unit is a no brainer. Under $5000 . Won't blow head gaskets like the 2nd gen Yota.
Upgrades and spares available everywhere.
5000 lb towing capacity.
Legendary engine ( a derivative of the venerable AMC 258 ) arguably one of the best straight six engines ever built.
The locker is an option that can be added.
Personally I'd opt for a front locker open rear arrangement. Much better in the snow.... Less prone to fish tailing and pushing....

It won't be the most glamorous or fancy rig out of all the ones mentioned, but it will be the lowest maintenance ( cost ) and highest supported ( aftermarket and OEM ) vehicle in the bunch.

Happy trails.

PS: Try this one:










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Jeep Cherokee - $5800 (Red hook)

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1996 Jeep Cherokee

condition: excellent
cylinders: 6 cylinders
drive: 4wd
fuel: gas
odometer: 96188
paint color: green
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
type: SUV
Jeep is in excellent condition, no rot no rust,Garage kept . Meticulously maintained,many new parts,New BFG's tires, polished wheels.muffler & pipe, radiator, battery, starter, alt, tune up. Stright 6 , 4.0 auto a/c, 4x4. New hitch, used once.96k Non smoker, 2nd owner. Great jeep.Thank you.
•do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers


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posted: 2016-02-10 11:39am

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Offer this guy $5000 and your done.......
 
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Bobzdar

Observer
A post 1997 Jeep Cherokee4 door . 4.0 Straight 6...... ( not the Grand Cherokee )
Finding a low mile rust free unit is a no brainer. Under $5000 . Won't blow head gaskets like the 2nd gen Yota.
Upgrades and spares available everywhere.
5000 lb towing capacity.
Legendary engine ( a derivative of the venerable AMC 258 ) arguably one of the best straight six engines ever built.
The locker is an option that can be added.
Personally I'd opt for a front locker open rear arrangement. Much better in the snow.... Less prone to fish tailing and pushing....

It won't be the most glamorous or fancy rig out of all the ones mentioned, but it will be the lowest maintenance ( cost ) and highest supported ( aftermarket and OEM ) vehicle in the bunch.

Happy trails.

The only cherokee configuration that can tow over 2500lbs is the 4.0 auto with auxiliary trans cooler and heavy duty radiator. All others are rated at 2500lbs max. You also have to use a weight distributing hitch for anything over 2000lbs with it. If it's equipped properly and you use a WD hitch, it's rated at 5000lbs with 500lbs tongue weight. That said, not sure how good it would do at the ops proposed 4000lbs, might be a little hairy.
 
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p nut

butter
The only cherokee configuration that can tow over 2500lbs is the 4.0 auto with auxiliary trans cooler and heavy duty radiator. All others are rated at 2500lbs max. You also have to use a weight distributing hitch for anything over 2000lbs with it. If it's equipped properly and you use a WD hitch, it's rated at 5000lbs with 500lbs tongue weight. That said, not sure how good it would do at the ops proposed 4000lbs, might be a little hairy.

At a curb weight of 3,700lbs, I would personally feel uncomfortable towing anything over 3k lbs.
 

Bobzdar

Observer
At a curb weight of 3,700lbs, I would personally feel uncomfortable towing anything over 3k lbs.

I don't personally buy into that at all; 6-7klbs curb weight 1 ton trucks are rated to tow 12klbs+ and wouldn't even sweat towing their own weight. It's more a wheelbase/track/engine/brakes issue with a cherokee than the weight...101" wheelbase isn't great for towing.
 

Ramblejam

Observer
Mind blowing, as in cheap?

As in incredibly cheap, especially when you consider what you're getting...

6.0L
4L80E
Heavy-duty cooling (engine/transmission)
AAM 925/950 axles
Suburban space/capability
Etc, etc.

Coming from NY I'd be a little bit afraid to see what the undercarriage looks like but yes, dirt cheap and a 3/4 ton with barn doors to boot!

You'd be inclined to think so, but this is exactly where I purchased my 2500 Burb -- I can tell you that it's as rust free as any other GMT 800 of these years that has resided out of the desert southwest.

Mine has been great! Flew into NYC (under $200 for a one-way ticket), picked up the truck, stopped by their DMV to get travel tags, and drove it home.
 

p nut

butter
I don't personally buy into that at all; 6-7klbs curb weight 1 ton trucks are rated to tow 12klbs+ and wouldn't even sweat towing their own weight. It's more a wheelbase/track/engine/brakes issue with a cherokee than the weight...101" wheelbase isn't great for towing.

Buy into it or not, I don't care. :D Just going off of personal experience. I currently have a relative that tows a 4k trailer with a 02 4Runner. It can get scary, especially down these mountain passes.

3/4 and 1 ton is a different ball game. Also, the trailers are much more tow friendly (relatively speaking) once you get up to those weights.
 

Bobzdar

Observer
Buy into it or not, I don't care. :D Just going off of personal experience. I currently have a relative that tows a 4k trailer with a 02 4Runner. It can get scary, especially down these mountain passes.

3/4 and 1 ton is a different ball game. Also, the trailers are much more tow friendly (relatively speaking) once you get up to those weights.

Earlier 4 runner has the same issue - short wheelbase. Newer are better at 110". I will say you can improve the towing of one of them quite a bit by running LT tires (the higher the load range the better) instead of passenger tires, but most don't. Makes an already marginal tow vehicle downright scary.
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
Earlier 4 runner has the same issue - short wheelbase. Newer are better at 110". I will say you can improve the towing of one of them quite a bit by running LT tires (the higher the load range the better) instead of passenger tires, but most don't. Makes an already marginal tow vehicle downright scary.

The short wheelbase thing can make for an exciting ride. Towed around 4000lbs with my 93 LC a few times, not something I would do by design it wasnt an enjoyable trip. It was clear any substandard pavement traction could easily result in a very short and wild ride. It was far more happy in the 2500 range.
 

4x4junkie

Explorer
A small (single-bar) weight distributing hitch + anti-sway bar should solve most all of these scary-towing issues with a SWB vehicle...

I've towed 4K lbs in an enclosed trailer with my little BII (even in it's lifted state) using such a hitch, it doesn't seem to be bothered by the wind blasts from passing big rigs, large dips in the road, etc. The scary part is seeing people come up quickly behind me on a steep grade (such as California's I-5 Grapevine) and then hoping they don't rear-end me because the little 240K-mile 2.9L V6 can only muster 50 MPH up it lol.
 

BIGdaddy

Expedition Leader
At a curb weight of 3,700lbs, I would personally feel uncomfortable towing anything over 3k lbs.

I rocked a 1992 XJ for 4-5 years. Towed a small 4x8 trailer at least once a week, which was usually loaded to the gills and I completely agree. Not a rig i'd want to use to tow something that heavy for an extended period of time.
 

p nut

butter
Earlier 4 runner has the same issue - short wheelbase. Newer are better at 110". I will say you can improve the towing of one of them quite a bit by running LT tires (the higher the load range the better) instead of passenger tires, but most don't. Makes an already marginal tow vehicle downright scary.

I'm sure all of this plays into it. I had a 00 Tacoma ext cab, and 01 DC, both 120" WB. Didn't make much difference, although I never towed anything over 2.5k. I wouldn't have been comfortable towing over that. But we do have mountain passes here with 7-10% grades, which make things interesting.

I rocked a 1992 XJ for 4-5 years. Towed a small 4x8 trailer at least once a week, which was usually loaded to the gills and I completely agree. Not a rig i'd want to use to tow something that heavy for an extended period of time.

That was a cool XJ you had, though. Yours (and others here) had me almost buy one on more than one occasion.
 

Root Moose

Expedition Leader
I've towed 4K lbs in an enclosed trailer with my little BII (even in it's lifted state) using such a hitch, it doesn't seem to be bothered by the wind blasts from passing big rigs, large dips in the road, etc. The scary part is seeing people come up quickly behind me on a steep grade (such as California's I-5 Grapevine) and then hoping they don't rear-end me because the little 240K-mile 2.9L V6 can only muster 50 MPH up it lol.

Same, same. I had a 1990 with a mild lift and 31s in the mid-90s. I was amazed what I towed with it moving my wife back and forth while she was away at university. It always seemed to control the trailer in spite of the short wheelbase and relative light weight.

Some days I wish it never got written off (t-boned by geriatric driver that probably shouldn't have been driving). Would probably be SAS'ed with the 5.0 by now if I had kept it over the years. It was always more satisfying than the swb Jeeps and Suzukis I ran in retrospect.

My XJ doesn't tow as well as my BII did. Even with the upgraded braking system and bolt-on engine mods. My Expedition on the other hand tows 4k lbs like it isn't even there. I've towed 3k lbs with a Suzuki Sidekick (LWB) and a 2k lbs with a Samurai (LWB). Not recommended. Flat towing an IH Scout with the Samurai was "fun".
 

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