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[goodtimes]

What kind of life are you getting out of the MT/Rs? My first set had 36K and about 30% tread remaining when I installed the lift. The next set had a total of 45K (between 2 jeeps), and were pretty much junk (you've seen my spare---that is one from that set).

I know a couple of folks running the Nitto terra grapplers, and they are very happy with them--both on the road and on the trail. They stick to the rocks very well, the sidewall is fairly stiff (doesn't fold over like the Iroks at low pressure), and I haven't seen any fail on the trail (I have seen a number of BFG's fail). Nittos are probably what I will use next....

 

[HenryJ]

What kind of life are you getting out of the MT/Rs?...

In the 50k mile range give or take 10k depending upon the vehicle and terrain.
I had one set worn out on a half ton Dodge by 40k and one set still going on a half ton Ford with 50k already.
Two sets of the STT have been gone in under 30k miles. One set was on a three quarter ton Dodge and the other on a half ton Chevy.
All were 235/85-16.
We have some brutal conditions. Driven seven days a week on broken basalt / shale, highway miles and pit run surfaced dirt ditch roads. Driven hard by guys in a hurry that don't own, maintain or care about the trucks they drive.
The MTRs really shine in durability. They don't chunk until the last tiny bit of tread. They do not go flat. I had one come in with six nails in the tire. The major complaint was he had to add air every week or so.
They just have a tough case and a very sticky interior lining. It seals pretty well to anything that manages to puncture the tire. They are a tough one to buff for a patch. It really grabs the buffer. I haven't been around another like it, yet.
As much of the fleet as possible is running MTR. They can be hard to get at times. They tell me that the majority are shipping to Iraq.
I wish I could personally buy them at the price I get them for the district. We can buy at government pricing and they run $85-$105 each, depending upon size.
I have been eying the new Toyo. They really look good. The interior of that tread looks just like the old Armstrong "Desert Dog" tire. Those were awesome tires! I am playing wait and see on the Toyos. They are very expensive. Usually nearly twice the cost of MTR. The M55 Toyos last like steel though. Sometimes they are pretty hard and rough riding. We run quite a few in our southern division.

Has anyone been checking Maxxis? I had a set of Buckshot radials a very long time ago, that were very good. I wonder what they offer now?

 

[Desertdude]

X2 :iagree: on the Bridgestone Revos - smooth solid ride on and off the highway.

 

[Clutch]

What kind of life are you getting out of the MT/Rs?

I put them on last summer, by the looks of them, they will be toast by the first of the year, so maybe 20-25K miles. The truck sees more pavement than dirt...use the KTM for the dirt

Before those I ran BFG's for years, I could get nearly 3-4 years out of them.

I knew I guy who was running the MT/R's, so I tried them. Fantastic tire! Run smoother than the old BFG MT's, handle great on and offroad. I knew they wouldn't last long from the first day I bought them, the compound was clearly softer, than the BFG's. That was the first thing I said to myself, when they were installed, pushed on a lug..."Cool tire, I'll bet these won't last long."

Not unhappy with them, need something more for pavement. I don't want to put new tires on every year and a half.

I see I have alot of options, now deciding is going to be the hard part. Thanks HenryJ for the heads up on the S/T-C

 

[bigreen505]

Not an AT by any means, but what about the Maxxis Bighorn? From what I understand they are not long wearing, but they are not expensive either, at least not by MT/R standards. I'm waiting to hear more real world numbers from people, but I would expect a set to last about 30,000 give or take based on 50% tread wear mileage from a handful of owners, all driving Tacomas.

 

[Clutch]

Not an AT by any means, but what about the Maxxis Bighorn?

What this thing!?

Only kidding...

I run Maxxis on my dirt bike, wear like iron, can almost run them flat, cheap....pain in the ******** to mount and dismount...good tires.

 

[Redline]

Overall I love Toyo tires (Nitto is a Toyo brand too).

I had a set of M55 in 255/85R16 for a few thousand miles on my F350. I also tried them on my '05 LJ Rubicon. I really wanted to like the M55, but they took much more weight to balance than the other Toyos I have owned recently (2 sets of MT and 1 AT), were pretty stiff and expensive, and they were noisy for such a moderate traction tire. The noise they emit is like a highway whine, similar to over-the-road semi tires but not nearly as loud. They are tough, with a chip resistant tread. My neighbor now has these 255/85 M55s on his F350 and he uses them as his hunting tires. He likes them better than his bigger/wider, taller BGF A/Ts.

In the 50k mile range give or take 10k depending upon the vehicle and terrain.
I had one set worn out on a half ton Dodge by 40k and one set still going on a half ton Ford with 50k already.
Two sets of the STT have been gone in under 30k miles. One set was on a three quarter ton Dodge and the other on a half ton Chevy.
All were 235/85-16.
We have some brutal conditions. Driven seven days a week on broken basalt / shale, highway miles and pit run surfaced dirt ditch roads. Driven hard by guys in a hurry that don't own, maintain or care about the trucks they drive.
The MTRs really shine in durability. They don't chunk until the last tiny bit of tread. They do not go flat. I had one come in with six nails in the tire. The major complaint was he had to add air every week or so.
They just have a tough case and a very sticky interior lining. It seals pretty well to anything that manages to puncture the tire. They are a tough one to buff for a patch. It really grabs the buffer. I haven't been around another like it, yet.
As much of the fleet as possible is running MTR. They can be hard to get at times. They tell me that the majority are shipping to Iraq.
I wish I could personally buy them at the price I get them for the district. We can buy at government pricing and they run $85-$105 each, depending upon size.
I have been eying the new Toyo. They really look good. The interior of that tread looks just like the old Armstrong "Desert Dog" tire. Those were awesome tires! I am playing wait and see on the Toyos. They are very expensive. Usually nearly twice the cost of MTR. The M55 Toyos last like steel though. Sometimes they are pretty hard and rough riding. We run quite a few in our southern division.

Has anyone been checking Maxxis? I had a set of Buckshot radials a very long time ago, that were very good. I wonder what they offer now?

 

[Redline]

I currently have a set of Maxxis Bighorn MT in 255/85R16 for my off-highway tires for my 4Runner. I have only used them for about 1000-miles and run a Toyo AT in 265/75 when I don't want the bigger, aggressive Bighorns. I like the Bighorns so far, but they are loud and I would not recommend them for an all-around "AT" tire.

Not an AT by any means, but what about the Maxxis Bighorn? From what I understand they are not long wearing, but they are not expensive either, at least not by MT/R standards. I'm waiting to hear more real world numbers from people, but I would expect a set to last about 30,000 give or take based on 50% tread wear mileage from a handful of owners, all driving Tacomas.

 

[goodtimes]

I run Maxxis on my dirt bike, wear like iron, can almost run them flat, cheap....pain in the ******** to mount and dismount...good tires.

What, you mean all tires don't mount as easy as my continentals?

 

[kcowyo]

Even though I've had great experiences with BFG KO's, I may try the TrXus MT from Interco next, just because of their excellent snow reviews and price point.

Or I may go balls out and for the same $$$ as the KO's, I might try the Mickey Thompson MTZ -

 

[DaveInDenver]

Even though I've had great experiences with BFG KO's, I may try the TrXus MT from Interco next, just because of their excellent snow reviews and price point.

Or I may go balls out and for the same $$$ as the KO's, I might try the Mickey Thompson MTZ -

All these tires and no useful (to me) sizes. How come no one makes skinny tires in 33" tall sizes for 15" rims? I guess I should be using 16" rims to take advantage of the metric sizes.

 

[XJxplorer]

Thats what I am having to do about sizes...Go to 16"....

 

[Clutch]

What, you mean all tires don't mount as easy as my continentals?

Gawd....you don't even need tire irons for those things...

I mounted up a set of Mich's for Colorado, what a breeze those things were to put on, compared to the Maxxis.

 

[Dave]

If you're looking at something not as aggressive as a TrXus style of AT, then you might want to consider the Kumho Venture AT KL-78's. I've had them on my daily driver Tacoma for almost a year (30,000 +/- miles). They've been on trails in Utah, Colorado, and here in Missouri and they have never let me down. This past weekend was the first time I've had them in any sloppy mud and they did much better then I expected. They behave on the road too.

Honestly, this is the first tire I've had in years that has lived up to all of my expectations without costing a ton of money. I've had MTR's and TrXus tires in the past and the KL-78's, so far, are working much better for me...but they don't look very cool.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Road+Venture+AT+KL-78

 

[Pskhaat]

...I should be using 16" rims to take advantage of the metric sizes.

I'm actually suprised you havn't yet?