Arkto G12 Review and Discussion

ruadhrigh

Member
@K9LTW
So does your trailer have the new RedArc system? Could you share some pictures of that? The control panel and the electrical box if you don't mind.

We've had our trailer for about 9 months now and every trip the BMPro system is a disappointment. Would like to change that out if the components are similarly sized.

Edited to ask:
Just noticed you have mudflaps, did the trailer come with those? Could you take some close up pictures of those? Got caught in some nasty rain/mud in Crested Butte last week and mud flaps would have definitely been appreciated.
 
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K9LTW

Active member
@K9LTW
So does your trailer have the new RedArc system? Could you share some pictures of that? The control panel and the electrical box if you don't mind.

We've had our trailer for about 9 months now and every trip the BMPro system is a disappointment. Would like to change that out if the components are similarly sized.

Edited to ask:
Just noticed you have mudflaps, did the trailer come with those? Could you take some close up pictures of those? Got caught in some nasty rain/mud in Crested Butte last week and mud flaps would have definitely been appreciated.
Yes to both...we have the RedArc and the mudflaps now come on the latest iteration of the trailers. Happy to get you some pics if you want more than what the video EPO posted shows! I'll get some pics of the mudflaps when I get home this evening. They did a fantastic job keeping the rear stabilizers clean which I know was a big issue earlier.
 

MTTwinMom

New member
Any owners in Montana? I live in southwest Montana and am really interested, but don't have the time to drive up to AB right now.
 

K9LTW

Active member
Any owners in Montana? I live in southwest Montana and am really interested, but don't have the time to drive up to AB right now.
Call/email Arkto. Aaron and his crew are amazing and will hook you up if there's anyone in the area. There's also a FB group Arkto Campers G12 Owners that you can join and see if anyone there can help (Aaron is on there as well). I don't think there are many of us on ExPo, comparatively.
 

npstone

New member
Call/email Arkto. Aaron and his crew are amazing and will hook you up if there's anyone in the area. There's also a FB group Arkto Campers G12 Owners that you can join and see if anyone there can help (Aaron is on there as well). I don't think there are many of us on ExPo, comparatively.
Yep, I emailed Aaron and he linked me up with an owner here in Missoula. Super helpful. Just saving my pennies until I can get my order in!
 

K9LTW

Active member
Yep, I emailed Aaron and he linked me up with an owner here in Missoula. Super helpful. Just saving my pennies until I can get my order in!
Awesome! We actually spent a couple days in Missoula at an AirBnB while on the way to pick up our trailer back in May. Paul's Pancake Parlor is eeeeeeeeeeevil! HAHAHAHA
 

foxintheforest

New member
We are soooo near our decision and it's pretty much Arkto for us! We've seen one and were just at the overland expo seeing if we missed anything that might be an option for us (nothing came close given our random constraints with garage size, towing, etc). But this thread is SO HELPFUL, so thank you everyone!

I've got a few "ask the audience" type questions as we try to navigate upgrades, etc.
1. Was there anything you upgraded where you didn't think it was necessary? Any upgrade you wish you would have done?
2. For those that shoulder season camp (specifically mountains/desert), how many days can you use your power assuming you're being conscious, but not uncomfortable and what power package are you running?
3. What's the one piece of advice or tip you'd tell a new owner - ETA: Arkto-specific - we've had 2 campers in the past that are of the street variety that we have modified heavily and keep taking to places where they break.
 
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K9LTW

Active member
We are soooo near our decision and it's pretty much Arkto for us! We've seen one and were just at the overland expo seeing if we missed anything that might be an option for us (nothing came close given our random constraints with garage size, towing, etc). But this thread is SO HELPFUL, so thank you everyone!

I've got a few "ask the audience" type questions as we try to navigate upgrades, etc.
1. Was there anything you upgraded where you didn't think it was necessary? Any upgrade you wish you would have done?
2. For those that shoulder season camp (specifically mountains/desert), how many days can you use your power assuming you're being conscious, but not uncomfortable and what power package are you running?
3. What's the one piece of advice or tip you'd tell a new owner (FWIW, the lights are dimmable on the current iteration)?
Awesome!

1. When we got ours, 400AHr was the most battery power he had and AC wasn't an option. As much as Virginia sucks, that would've been a nice option, but that's unique to any use case...and once we move to WY in a couple years will, hopefully, be a nonissue! An upgrade we should've done? The Wrappon toilet. We opted for the default cassette...and...nope. It's out of the camper ne'er to be used, again. I just have our folding Cleanwaste toilet in there now and will stick with that.

Get a 30-lb propane tank...that'll be an "upgrade" on ours at some point.

Unless he's changed what's going in there as far as USB ports, they were all low-power Type-A connectors. If you want fast-charge, 65W Type Cs you may have to ask him to put those in. He found some from the same manufacturer, so was able to put those in for me with the requisite wiring.

2. We spent 3 nights and 2.5 days in ours the day we picked it up. It was stationary after the 4.5 hour drive to the river, so we were starting from a full charge on 400AHr of batteries. Partly cloudy days and shading from trees at various points. We have 400W of solar on the roof. Using water and hot water as much as we wanted (no showers as it was chilly), using lights only when inside, one fridge compartment running, charging phones and drones, and running the heat all night long and into the morning we never dropped below 80%. Granted this was June when the sun would be more overhead making the trees less of an issue. But I'd just break out my 200W solar suitcase to chase the sun around if needed. Other than replenishing food and propane, we could've stayed there indefinitely until winter blotted out the sun.

3. Aaron gave us an incredibly detailed walk-around complete with "tips" on the best orientation of the carabiners for the awning cords. I can't really think of any gotchas or tips we've discovered. If it matters...the only steel in it are the two roof braces. We got some small, magnetic, carabiners for hanging jackets and such on the front brace.

Oh...and go buy an inexpensive 1/4"-drive battery-powered impact gun that can live in the trailer for the corner stays. You'll be provided with a hex bit for them. Necessary? No. Time saver and nice to have? Definitely.

For reference we have 400AHr heated batteries, 30A BCDC system with supplemental solar to plug our suitcase in, 400W solar on the roof, 2000W inverter, heated water tank, upgraded Ark XO corner stabilizers (that's a must-have, IMO), and the insulation. I also added the walls to the awning after the fact.
 

ruadhrigh

Member
We are soooo near our decision and it's pretty much Arkto for us! We've seen one and were just at the overland expo seeing if we missed anything that might be an option for us (nothing came close given our random constraints with garage size, towing, etc). But this thread is SO HELPFUL, so thank you everyone!

I've got a few "ask the audience" type questions as we try to navigate upgrades, etc.
1. Was there anything you upgraded where you didn't think it was necessary? Any upgrade you wish you would have done?
2. For those that shoulder season camp (specifically mountains/desert), how many days can you use your power assuming you're being conscious, but not uncomfortable and what power package are you running?
3. What's the one piece of advice or tip you'd tell a new owner (FWIW, the lights are dimmable on the current iteration)?
1. When we ordered we upgraded everything we could and all the upgrades have been great. We got the water tank heater as a "just in case." Even Aaron said it's not really necessary but we went with it anyway. We have camped in below 20F weather with no water freezing issues so it probably isn't really necessary just like Aaron said. We did skip the insulated window cover and instead installed a translucent window cover from Lowes. It still lets light in but you can't see through the window which is what we wanted.

2. We camp nearly all year in the Four Corners area and have yet to run out of power. With the 300AH batteries and the 200w solar panels we have not even dipped below the 80% range. We have not camped in snow, or had our panels obstructed so that has helped. I'd say we are generally low power consumers (lights and the Truma).

3. Go big on the batteries and solar and make sure you get the most DC/DC charging from your tow vehicle. Its nice not having to sweat the power levels. Also like K9LTW mentioned, get the 30lb propane tank. Its a tight fit but why not get the extra fuel and refill it less often. Last piece of advice would be to invest in some extra lights. The battery powered motion sensor lights are not that great in the storage compartments and the exterior lights are kinda sad. We usually find ourselves cooking or cleaning the kitchen area in the dark. While standing at the sink you will block the light as it is directly behind you, at the stove it's at a bit of an angle but still gets blocked. We installed a light on the flip up pantry door that plugs into the 12v outlet in the pantry when needed and that has solved that issue.

And from what I have seen the new units come with the RedArc controller that allows the overhead lights to be dimmed.
 

ruadhrigh

Member
Oh...and go buy an inexpensive 1/4"-drive battery-powered impact gun that can live in the trailer for the corner stays. You'll be provided with a hex bit for them. Necessary? No. Time saver and nice to have? Definitely.

This is a great suggestion
 

K9LTW

Active member
3. Go big on the batteries and solar and make sure you get the most DC/DC charging from your tow vehicle. Its nice not having to sweat the power levels. Also like K9LTW mentioned, get the 30lb propane tank. Its a tight fit but why not get the extra fuel and refill it less often. Last piece of advice would be to invest in some extra lights. The battery powered motion sensor lights are not that great in the storage compartments and the exterior lights are kinda sad. We usually find ourselves cooking or cleaning the kitchen area in the dark. While standing at the sink you will block the light as it is directly behind you, at the stove it's at a bit of an angle but still gets blocked. We installed a light on the flip up pantry door that plugs into the 12v outlet in the pantry when needed and that has solved that issue.
Good points on lighting. I didn't even think of it as we carry around two of the Devos Lightranger 1200 lights (highly recommend). As it is, the exterior lighting is ok for scene/general illumination to avoid things moving around but not real effective as the sole light to cook by. I do like that they toggle between white and amber, though.
 

foxintheforest

New member
Awesome!

1. When we got ours, 400AHr was the most battery power he had and AC wasn't an option. As much as Virginia sucks, that would've been a nice option, but that's unique to any use case...and once we move to WY in a couple years will, hopefully, be a nonissue! An upgrade we should've done? The Wrappon toilet. We opted for the default cassette...and...nope. It's out of the camper ne'er to be used, again. I just have our folding Cleanwaste toilet in there now and will stick with that.

Get a 30-lb propane tank...that'll be an "upgrade" on ours at some point.

Unless he's changed what's going in there as far as USB ports, they were all low-power Type-A connectors. If you want fast-charge, 65W Type Cs you may have to ask him to put those in. He found some from the same manufacturer, so was able to put those in for me with the requisite wiring.

2. We spent 3 nights and 2.5 days in ours the day we picked it up. It was stationary after the 4.5 hour drive to the river, so we were starting from a full charge on 400AHr of batteries. Partly cloudy days and shading from trees at various points. We have 400W of solar on the roof. Using water and hot water as much as we wanted (no showers as it was chilly), using lights only when inside, one fridge compartment running, charging phones and drones, and running the heat all night long and into the morning we never dropped below 80%. Granted this was June when the sun would be more overhead making the trees less of an issue. But I'd just break out my 200W solar suitcase to chase the sun around if needed. Other than replenishing food and propane, we could've stayed there indefinitely until winter blotted out the sun.

3. Aaron gave us an incredibly detailed walk-around complete with "tips" on the best orientation of the carabiners for the awning cords. I can't really think of any gotchas or tips we've discovered. If it matters...the only steel in it are the two roof braces. We got some small, magnetic, carabiners for hanging jackets and such on the front brace.

Oh...and go buy an inexpensive 1/4"-drive battery-powered impact gun that can live in the trailer for the corner stays. You'll be provided with a hex bit for them. Necessary? No. Time saver and nice to have? Definitely.

For reference we have 400AHr heated batteries, 30A BCDC system with supplemental solar to plug our suitcase in, 400W solar on the roof, 2000W inverter, heated water tank, upgraded Ark XO corner stabilizers (that's a must-have, IMO), and the insulation. I also added the walls to the awning after the fact.
Thanks for all of this! Awesome advice. Love the magnetic carabiner hack! And good to know about the USBs - I'll ask!
Looks like we are looking at similar upgrades, except I think I'll go for just the suitcase solar panels (take 'em when I need 'em, leave 'em when I don't) instead of roof solar (trying to keep the weight down).
I'd say the 1/4" impact is necessary! We've got that set up for our current pop-up camper and everrrry time I forget to charge the battery beforehand and it craps out on me 1/2 way through and I'm hand cranking those braces down I'm grumbling lol!
The Wrappon toilet is something I'm thinking about. I'm a dirtbag at heart, so catholes never bothered me, but we've got a little that's about to go through potty training and sometimes you're in a spot where you have to bring your own toilet. Our current pop-up has a cassette and it's only used for number 1s on cold nights (and therefore not nasty to clean/empty) so I'm trying to envision how that would change with a kiddo and if it'll be worth the upgrade so I appreciate your insights there.
FWIW I live in CO and I've never felt a huge need for an AC unit in any of our campers (we've had 2). So hopefully a move to WY will help!
 

foxintheforest

New member
1. When we ordered we upgraded everything we could and all the upgrades have been great. We got the water tank heater as a "just in case." Even Aaron said it's not really necessary but we went with it anyway. We have camped in below 20F weather with no water freezing issues so it probably isn't really necessary just like Aaron said. We did skip the insulated window cover and instead installed a translucent window cover from Lowes. It still lets light in but you can't see through the window which is what we wanted.

2. We camp nearly all year in the Four Corners area and have yet to run out of power. With the 300AH batteries and the 200w solar panels we have not even dipped below the 80% range. We have not camped in snow, or had our panels obstructed so that has helped. I'd say we are generally low power consumers (lights and the Truma).

3. Go big on the batteries and solar and make sure you get the most DC/DC charging from your tow vehicle. Its nice not having to sweat the power levels. Also like K9LTW mentioned, get the 30lb propane tank. Its a tight fit but why not get the extra fuel and refill it less often. Last piece of advice would be to invest in some extra lights. The battery powered motion sensor lights are not that great in the storage compartments and the exterior lights are kinda sad. We usually find ourselves cooking or cleaning the kitchen area in the dark. While standing at the sink you will block the light as it is directly behind you, at the stove it's at a bit of an angle but still gets blocked. We installed a light on the flip up pantry door that plugs into the 12v outlet in the pantry when needed and that has solved that issue.

And from what I have seen the new units come with the RedArc controller that allows the overhead lights to be dimmed.
Thanks! I think my hangup is what battery options we want - trying to balance weight, budget, and need. Definitely want some solar suitcases so we can bring them along for bigger trips.
Thanks for the lighting input - I believe I read your comments on how you handled it higher up in this thread - I'll definitely revisit that.
 

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