Bad Parenting

[The Adam Blaster]

uhhhhh, do you know me?

You're guessing wrong, I'd have a problem w/ anyone that sent my kids into the ocean during rough conditions. Oh, and it's not my 'story'. I wasn't there, my daughters brought me the 'story', confirmed by their mother (my ex) who felt horrible about the whole thing.

Sheesh!

"A parent who puts themselves before their children will find that their children will put them last."
- My good friend Bill

Whoa whoa whoa!
I think you've totally misunderstood the meaning behind my post...
I obviously left out any slant to my post and that left it unclear.
What I was eluding to was that your ex-wife must exercise poor judgement from the story that your kids have told you, and evidenced by their injuries.
And that poor judgement may have been a reason for the divorce.
I was basically putting down your ex.
Sorry for the confusion, and sorry for putting down your ex if you took that as an offense.
Most people don't really like their ex's, that's why they are an "ex". lol

 

[d1sc0ver]

Whoa whoa whoa!
I think you've totally misunderstood the meaning behind my post...
I obviously left out any slant to my post and that left it unclear.
What I was eluding to was that your ex-wife must exercise poor judgement from the story that your kids have told you, and evidenced by their injuries.
And that poor judgement may have been a reason for the divorce.
I was basically putting down your ex.
Sorry for the confusion, and sorry for putting down your ex if you took that as an offense.
Most people don't really like their ex's, that's why they are an "ex". lol

Yeah, my ex uses bad judgement and I bring it to her attention as often as I'm made aware by my children. She's just a 'blank' sort of person, consumed with what's going on in her head instead of what's going on around her.

However, I'm not the kind of guy to put people down and make it ugly. I try to help her be a better parent.

No offense taken.

 

[The Adam Blaster]

No offense taken.

Cool.

 

[T.Low]

Short Version

I once caught a 22 yr old guy as he was robbing my shop. He was already putting my Rip Curl Tidemaster watch on as I suprised him. I chased him out the front door and tackled him in the street and dragged his raggedy *** back in while my girlfriend called the police. We raiseda bit of a comotion in the street and it was all I could do to get the guy back into my shop and lock his 10 friends out. While he and I cage matched it inside until the cops got there, they all pounded wildly on my glass store front.

Turns out he is well known to the police, has a record, and is a part of a informal gang the police refer to as the **** Rats.

He got off on a technicality, then he and his older brother began to vandalize my shop and shout obscenities at my customers when I wasn't around.

One day I was downtown talking with some casual acquaintances on the street and noticed a big heavy guy wearing a white tank top t shirt staring at me. I acknowledged him with a common nod and said, "How ya doing?"

"A lot better than your gonna be doing in a minute, thats for sure", he replied.

Puzzled, I looked at the two guys flanking him and recognized them as the 22 yr old perp and his older brother.

"Yeah, that's right", he says. "Ya beat up my kid and stole his watch".

"Do you want to hear my side of the story?" I ask him. "I'm the one who got robbed by your son there".

"Maybe I'll talk to you some time when you're not all glazed over" he says.


"What the hell are you talking about?", I said. "Look, we're all here now; me and the three of you. If you want to talk it out, or how ever you want to do it, here we all are so let's just end it now. However you want to end it, lets end it now." ( I really don't doubt that I would have whipped all three of their asses at the same time, but who really wants to get into a street fight).

The guy says some more stupid stuff, I mention of few more times that it's ending here and now and after this they're never gonna be near my shop again blah blah "end it now" I say and the guy starts backing away, pointing his finger at me saying "no, you'll get yours, you'll get yours."

I looked at him in pathetic amazement and said "oh, we're here now, but your going to hit me when my back is turned. So thats where your kids learned it? They learned it from their old man the Coward. I see" and they walked off.

That seemed to me to be some really bad parenting. On the other hand, maybe the FF is a little smarter than I give him credit for; the kids never botherred me again after that.

 

[yeti_in_ga]

back to the out doors...

Kid catches snake on fishing pool, next to sign NO FISHING. Guess what happens....

She gets BIT..

 

[Honu]

And it wasn't like he was trying to hide it. Everyone in that area of the campground had to hear it. What disturbed me the most was that he was very cordial to me through out the weekend.

you are more mellow than me !!!

I would have told him watch his mouth and attitude as my kids can hear it then see how he reacted

 

[kenallwine]

you are more mellow than me !!!

I would have told him watch his mouth and attitude as my kids can hear it then see how he reacted

I'm not one to start something If I wasn't already involved in. Plus I also wanted to be an example to my daughter that you have to rise above people like this and don't sink to their level.

 

[john101477]

Bad parenting happens a lot. Call it a sign of the times or media washing or even to much government intrusion but as parents we let our kids watch shows that show other kids being disrespectful and wonder why our kid did the same thing last week. you can't yell at your kids because thats verbal abuse, you can't spank your kid cause thats physical abuse, time outs- hmm sit down for 10 minutes - did you learn your lesson? grounding? never worked on me. go to the dr complain the kid is out of control and ask for a hdad - Dr drugs the kid with "medicine".

to me the last one is just crazy. yeah some kids have HDAD and it is a serious condition. but I personally know 3 kids on meds that are as normal as any kid and they are on meds cause their idiot parents can not handle them.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

John, agree with that. But that's a much larger discussion. I do agree that we are causing ourselves many problems with our kids due to "modern parenting" stuff.


I intended this to be more about brain-fart-type events outdoors.

 

[Honu]

I'm not one to start something If I wasn't already involved in. Plus I also wanted to be an example to my daughter that you have to rise above people like this and don't sink to their level.

very good point ?

I would still if he was swearing doing things I do not want her exposed to etc..
rise above is true do the right thing is true also stand up for yourself is true

wasnt meaning as to pick a fight ? more get where he is coming from ? sometimes you can say something like that to a person and they THINK WOW I did not realize I was that loud sorry about that !
or if he says screw you I am going to kick your rear ! then you know what kind of person he is if the later I would remove myself before I ever confronted someone but also if he was like that I would call the police tell them their is a guy at this camp and explain he is out of control you heard what you thought was him hitting his wife but you are not sure ? and then say you asked him to pull it down a few notches since your daughter is hearing it !
he then threatened you and let them deal with the guy !!!!

I am just sick of people thinking its all about them and loosing their manners when in public you have freedom but also must respect others

same reason when kids were involved in accidents on island I would go off on the parents you can discipline a kid for bad behavior well some adults these days are kids and need it also IMHO

I wasnt their so might be reading more into than I need

 

[R_Lefebvre]

On the weekend, I saw a family in a 4 door JK, out on the trail. Cool right? Except... the truck was lifted with big tires, must have been 35's or 37's. They were running topless, and doorless. 3 boys in the back seat. Oldest boy maybe 10 years old in the middle. On the two outsides, two smaller boys, maybe 4-5-6. They were sitting on those booster seats that just rest on the seat, with the stock 3 point seatbelts on. Seemed pretty precarious to me. They were doing somewhat hardcore obstacles. I kept thinking, if the Jeep rolled, I don't think the little boys would stay in their seats, the restraints were pretty precarious.

At one point, one of the boys said he wanted to walk down an obstacle intead of riding down, and the parents said "we're not stopping to pick you up at the bottom, so get in and sit down."

I dunno, what do you guys think? Seemed a bit much to me.

I would have had the little boys in large carseats and harnesses. Hard top and doors on.

 

[SilverBullet]

I once wheeled with a guy who was very safety consience. He had a bronco II modified with 3 5-point harness for his kids in back. One slow day wheeling, he let teh kids play on the floor boards with their cars while he drove and we were livid at him for not beltign them in. As a Dad, I usually keep my kids well secured (verify belts are locked and tight, etc.) if I am getting into crawlnig, normal belts for forest roads.

 

[DrMoab]

Hard top and doors on.

Have you ever seen what happens to a fiberglass top when a vehicle rolls?

Top or no top, it makes no difference.

 

[Street Wolf]

Best option would be not bringing the little tumors along to begin with.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Best option would be not bringing the little tumors along to begin with.

Nice. Hope you never have any kids.

Have you ever seen what happens to a fiberglass top when a vehicle rolls?

No, but I can imagine. Still, anything to maybe keep them inside, instead of under the truck is probably better.