Barn Door for JK factory hardtops

jscherb

Expedition Leader
Great pics - thank you for the detailed photos of the camp set up. How did you like the tire-mounted side table? Looks little low, especially for someone tall like you (and me).

Also, I was VERY thankful that I was using your side-mounted MORryde jerry cans this weekend. Temperature dropped to record lows and I had to improvise to thaw out our water supply! I guess this is the OPPOSITE of the challenges that usually happen in Death Valley . . .

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I liked the tire table. It's easy to set up and quite sturdy. I used a small folding table for eating (seen between the chairs in this photo), because I didn't want to eat so close to the dirty side of the Jeep. I used the tire table as a countertop for setting things I was taking out of the Jeep but not needing at the kitchen tabletop, like the food bag in this photo, or the bags for my clothes. It was a convenient work surface for stuff like that. The height is very close to the height of the folding table I did use for eating, maybe just a few inches lower, but I've only got 32" tires, with larger tires the table would be higher.

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jscherb

Expedition Leader
A month ago I turned over the engineering drawings for the door hinge steps to the company, so those are now somewhere in the production engineering process. Another HD door hinge accessory I plan to build a prototype of is a Rotopax/Rubican container mount. Here's a concept image:

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Below, the photo on the left is a full-size drawing taped to the dooor and on the right is the drawing. Rotopax containers in 1, 1.75, 2 and 3 gallon are oulined on the drawing as well as a 2.5 gallon Rubican. The bracket will fit on either the front or rear doors.

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I'm also planning another design bracket which would hold a Hilift or other gear like a shovel, etc. Hopefully will get to building both of these later this week.
 

jscherb

Expedition Leader
As part of removing all of the camping expedition gear from the Jeep today I removed the door hinge steps - in daily driving use I won't need the hinges so no point in having them installed, especially since it takes about 15 seconds to install a step. I did this 34-second video to demonstrate how the steps install, using a step, and how they remove.

 

jscherb

Expedition Leader
That is awesome Jeff!!!! Great job.

A well deserved spot for a very well designed product.

Thank you very much! The Trail Kitchen exceeded my expectations on the camping trip - easy to deploy and store, lots of counter space, easy access to the fridge and very convenient running water.

With the Trail Kitchen heading for production, the next question is which options should be available. I'm thinking the starting point would be the base slide/drawer/table system, which didn't include the extra table on the driver's side. That table would be an option because some people might not need all that counter space, although after using the kitchen on my camping trip I found I used all of the space and wouldn't want less. Another option would be the Molle/Rotopax/Rubican panel on the side of the fridge, which I used on the trip to hold my kitchen water supply in a Rubican with a spigot.

There are two other options I could recommend to the company - first, the power system I designed for the fridge. This consists of a "fridge battery" strapped into one of the company's inner fender ammo can trays, a wiring harness and volt/amp meters. The fridge runs off it's own battery when the Jeep is not running, and when the Jeep is running the fridge runs off Jeep power and the fridge battery gets charged from the Jeep as well. It could be offered as a "plug and play" wiring harness that would be very easy to install, and would end up being much less expensive than your typical dual battery system. The thing a typical dual battery system has over this is that the Jeep can be started from both batteries, with this less expensive solution if your main Jeep battery died and you needed to start the Jeep off the fridge battery you'd have to use jumper cables (or swap the fridge battery in place of the main battery). The wiring system worked perfectly the entire trip, keeping the fridge running 24 7 and not putting a drain on the main Jeep battery, and I figured in the unlikely event I had to start the Jeep from the fridge battery, the rarity of that need would more than compensate for the much lower price of this wiring vs. a typical dual battery system.

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The other possible option is a sink. It's a replacement section for the fold-down table with a hole in it that the sink drops into. There's a spigot on a bracket that's held in place by the sink. The spigot is plumbed to the Rotopax or Rubican mounted to the bracket on the side of the fridge. For folding/stowing the table, the sink pops out of the hole in the table and is stored separately. A second Rotopax/Rubican would be used for "gray water" drained out of the sink, and if you had three containers they could be rotated, as one emptied of water it could become the next gray water container, etc.

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What do you guys think? Should I recommend those to the company as options?

Any other features/options the Trail Kitchen should have?
 

Bullseye240

Adventurer
All options described sound like winners to me. It allows someone to get just what they need or can afford at thm moment with an upgrade later if they wish. I like the idea of the fridge having it's own battery and being disconnected from the starting system when the vehicle is off. Like you said if needed either jump start or swap the batteries and you're good to go.

(edit because I have fumbling fingers sometimes)
 
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jgaz

Adventurer
The water can panel would be an option definitely I'd want. It looks like a great use of a narrow amount of space.

The side table would be a maybe, but it would be nice if it were able to be added later.

I don't think I'd be interested in the sink. A couple dish pans have always worked for me.

The wiring would depend on price as I'm quite capable of constructing my own system.
 

jscherb

Expedition Leader
MORryde gave me a preproduction Overland Rack at the SEMA show for me to test. Here is it at the show:

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Installed on my Jeep:

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I've got stock 32's, but a 37"+ tire will fit inside the rack.

Of course I did the 225lb. gorilla test:


Overall the company has done a very nice job, but I've sent them a few suggestions for improvement.

Also checked out mounting Rubicans instead of Rotopax:

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jscherb

Expedition Leader
Scherb, (sent them suggestions for improvement) Let's hope this means lifting the main storage tray above the spare a few more inches. Being in it's current position, there's absolutely no way one can view out the back window. Therefore this setup would fail in our opinion.

There's only one rack on the market that I know of that raises the cargo tray that high, and it isn't very popular so it seems to me most people accept that once you put a large spare on the back there's not much visibility to lose anyway. Every other rack I am aware of mounts just above the spare, like these:

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And BTW since the Safari Cab hardtop is taller than a factory hardtop, it may look like the MORryde rack is lower than the others pictured above, but in fact it's the same height as some and higher than others.
 
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rubicon91

Explorer
Scherb, (sent them suggestions for improvement) Let's hope this means lifting the main storage tray above the spare a few more inches. Being in it's current position, there's absolutely no way one can view out the back window. Therefore this setup would fail in our opinion.

Badger, Cant use the back window with a trail rack very much anyway. Especially when loaded. Been running one for years now. Get a back up camera fixes your issue. This setup is definitely not a fail!! Great work Jeff.

Edit Jeff here is the LOD Offroad rear bumper/tire carrier with trail rack.
 

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jscherb

Expedition Leader
Badger, Cant use the back window with a trail rack very much anyway. Especially when loaded. Been running one for years now. Get a back up camera fixes your issue. This setup is definitely not a fail!! Great work Jeff.

Edit Jeff here is the LOD Offroad rear bumper/tire carrier with trail rack.

Thanks Donny! And thanks for the LOD photo.

Response to the rack at the SEMA Show tells me it is not a fail, there was a lot of interest in it, and lots of people commented that they liked it better than the Teraflex and other racks on the market. One guy even tried to convince me that the company should make a version of it work with the Teraflex tailgate reinforcement because he said their Alta rack is way too expensive (this after I told him the MORryde rack will likely be priced several hundred dollars less than the Teraflex).
 

MattJ

Adventurer
Jeff:
Here's a video showing how fast I can take the MORryde side trays off. It's really helpful since I put the trays on/off frequently, each time I switch between camping and off-roading. I know you don't like rivnuts, but do you think MORryde could make me a mounting plate with threaded holes as part of the base mounting plate? Would be super helpful. But I don't know if that adds a lot of manufacturing complexity or not. Thanks!

https://vimeo.com/243149104/32be404216
 

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