crmarlinfishermen
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wich is the best 4x4 suv or pick up
best 4x4
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RocTrac
Adventurer
Ohhhhh, your looking to stir the pot:wings: That is a pretty subjective question. What kink of driving are you planning to do? How much room do you need? etc.....Since my needs have changed over the past couple of years I would Say a 4 door Rubicon. It fits my personality and needs.
4Rescue
Expedition Leader
Yes this is a really sujective question and the answers are going to be pretty varried.
Here's my answer:
Theis is my top 10 that you can walk off the Lot with and go wheeling no extras nessescary:
1) Toyota HZJ78 troupy (not sold in the USA...)
2) Toyota HJ80 (needs more power IMO)
3) Toyota HJ105 (not sold in the USA...)
4) Mercades Glandewagen (not sold in the USA in the desirade trim/eqpt. level I want)
5) Nissan Patrol (not sold in the USA)
6) Jeep Rubicon Unltd. (LJ)
7) Dodge Power Wagon
8) Jeep Unltd. Rubicon (JK)
9) Hummer H3/T ( would never buy a Hummer, but they do come with a good eqpt. list)
10) SFA Toyota Hillux and Surf's or the new Diesel's ... this last one is hard
All of these (except #10 only has a rear locker)come with F/R lockers and are unbelivably capable off the lot. the Unimog could almost fit these criteria, but to me they're just seem to fit into the farm impliment/big truck realm. Biggest issue you can see from that list is we can't have most of them.
Of those that are readily available here in the US, all of the TLC's for different reasons and any 4x4 Toyota Truck and 4Runners are top of my list... Nissan X's and Frontiers are good trucks too.
Top's for me personaly world-wide (Except in the USA) is the HZJ78 Series Troupy or Ute if you need a P/U... there are very few (as in I can count them on two hands) mas-produced 4x4's of the SUV and P/U type that come with the type of equiptment the 70series Toyota does. Big Diesel power with ALOT of tuning opportunities, F/R Lockers and amazing relaibility. Plus of the few that can match that VERY few of those are built anywhere near as well. Biggest down side to them? We can't have them here in the US without going to extreme lengths and paying alot of money.
Maybe this should have been in the General section instead of the toyota specific section...
Cheers
Dave
Here's my answer:
Theis is my top 10 that you can walk off the Lot with and go wheeling no extras nessescary:
1) Toyota HZJ78 troupy (not sold in the USA...)
2) Toyota HJ80 (needs more power IMO)
3) Toyota HJ105 (not sold in the USA...)
4) Mercades Glandewagen (not sold in the USA in the desirade trim/eqpt. level I want)
5) Nissan Patrol (not sold in the USA)
6) Jeep Rubicon Unltd. (LJ)
7) Dodge Power Wagon
8) Jeep Unltd. Rubicon (JK)
9) Hummer H3/T ( would never buy a Hummer, but they do come with a good eqpt. list)
10) SFA Toyota Hillux and Surf's or the new Diesel's ... this last one is hard
All of these (except #10 only has a rear locker)come with F/R lockers and are unbelivably capable off the lot. the Unimog could almost fit these criteria, but to me they're just seem to fit into the farm impliment/big truck realm. Biggest issue you can see from that list is we can't have most of them.
Of those that are readily available here in the US, all of the TLC's for different reasons and any 4x4 Toyota Truck and 4Runners are top of my list... Nissan X's and Frontiers are good trucks too.
Top's for me personaly world-wide (Except in the USA) is the HZJ78 Series Troupy or Ute if you need a P/U... there are very few (as in I can count them on two hands) mas-produced 4x4's of the SUV and P/U type that come with the type of equiptment the 70series Toyota does. Big Diesel power with ALOT of tuning opportunities, F/R Lockers and amazing relaibility. Plus of the few that can match that VERY few of those are built anywhere near as well. Biggest down side to them? We can't have them here in the US without going to extreme lengths and paying alot of money.
Maybe this should have been in the General section instead of the toyota specific section...
Cheers
Dave
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mike h
Adventurer
Sorta like a chicken and egg question. It doesn't affect the 4x4 issue, as far as capabilities go. It only depends on what you need to haul. Not so great to put motorcycles, gasoline, firewood, or dead animals inside an SUV... not so great to put people and other valuables in the bed of a truck...
SUV is also a wide ranging term: I don't really consider my 80 Series (or a 4dr Ruby) an SUV, but I know the general public sees it that way. I usually run the 80 with only the front seats, so it is a big enclosed box. Sorta splits the difference.
SUV is also a wide ranging term: I don't really consider my 80 Series (or a 4dr Ruby) an SUV, but I know the general public sees it that way. I usually run the 80 with only the front seats, so it is a big enclosed box. Sorta splits the difference.
Scott Brady
Founder
70 Series Land Cruiser...
As far as vehicles available in the US, it becomes a bit more grey, and would take 20 pages to debate. My choice would either be an FJ80 TLC or a 1996-2004 Tacoma. Both are legendary in their reliability and durability.
Now, an important point to make, is that the above comments are for vehicles that are probably the "best" vehicles to combine capability, capacity, durability, reliability, etc.
As far as the "best" factory 4wd available in the US from a performance only standpoint, that is easily the LJ Rubicon or JK 2-door Rubicon Jeep. If you had to drive any vehicle from a showroom to something like the Rubicon, or the Hammers, or take your pick, the Rubicon will outperform them all in pure technical terrain.
As far as vehicles available in the US, it becomes a bit more grey, and would take 20 pages to debate. My choice would either be an FJ80 TLC or a 1996-2004 Tacoma. Both are legendary in their reliability and durability.
Now, an important point to make, is that the above comments are for vehicles that are probably the "best" vehicles to combine capability, capacity, durability, reliability, etc.
As far as the "best" factory 4wd available in the US from a performance only standpoint, that is easily the LJ Rubicon or JK 2-door Rubicon Jeep. If you had to drive any vehicle from a showroom to something like the Rubicon, or the Hammers, or take your pick, the Rubicon will outperform them all in pure technical terrain.
Personally i dont see how you can divorce reliability/durability from performance when it comes to any vehicle except maybe track only vehicles that have the luxury of getting rebuilt after a 1/4mi run--or trailered vehicles that have the luxury of getting dumped onto a trailer after breakage for the ride home. When it comes to any vehicle in the Expedition Portal Forum......id venture to say that you always must factor in durability,reliability and performance for your intended purpose.
First order of business is to determine your capacity and needs---then find the most reliable and durable vehicle which fits those needs. Seems fairly simple--but a few golden rules typically apply:
-you always end up needing more capacity than you think
-added capacity typically comes with added weight which typically effects durability and performance.
First order of business is to determine your capacity and needs---then find the most reliable and durable vehicle which fits those needs. Seems fairly simple--but a few golden rules typically apply:
-you always end up needing more capacity than you think
-added capacity typically comes with added weight which typically effects durability and performance.
adventureduo
Dave Druck [KI6LBB]
Is this even a Landcruiser specific topic?
mountainpete
Spamicus Eliminatus
It doesn't matter if its a rusty $500 Toyota truck or a new $200k EarthRoamer, the best vehicle is the one that makes you smile when you get behind the wheel, "speaks" to you when it's ailing and safely powers your exploration of this beautiful planet.
mountainpete
Spamicus Eliminatus
rusty_tlc
Explorer
A very simple question that I can answer in two words
A rental.:wings:
Just get the extra insurance.
rusty_tlc
Explorer
You have something better to do on a Thursday night?:sombrero:
Maybe ,but I refuse to help out with questions like his unitl they define "best"
They also need to outline their location.
Its not much good recommending an 05 toyota troopy to someone who has no access to that model or cant afford one in the 1st place
Chriscanoe
Observer
My opinion is that the best 4X4 that you can buy in the US is the 95-97
FZJ80 Land Cruiser, w/ Factory lockers. Outside the US, I would have a diesel 70 series troopy, w/ lockers. Most any 4wd will get you there, a cruiser will get you there and back.
FZJ80 Land Cruiser, w/ Factory lockers. Outside the US, I would have a diesel 70 series troopy, w/ lockers. Most any 4wd will get you there, a cruiser will get you there and back.