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Tyrant 66

Adventurer
Well I'll say one thing; you get that monster of yours chained up on all 4, you should be able to drive straight up a GLACIER with no worries!! Cheers and I do dig the van! :coffeedrink:

Thank you! You brought up an interesting point that I was going to throw out there to see if anybody had some advice. I had only ordered two chains for the front tires based on something I had read somewhere a while back, is it wise and recommended to have a chain for all four tires?


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Tyrant 66

Adventurer
I got stuck here but it's because I was on a lake and the chains dug into the ice until my front diff was sitting on ice. Had I been on firmer ground where the chains could grab rocks and roots, I would have been fine.

It looks like you have four guys standing around to help you! I worry about being alone somewhere in the middle of nowhere and just the wind to push me in the right direction



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350outrage

Adventurer
I don't use chain for on road use but for offroad use they are worth their weight in gold... You will find yourself intentionally looking for deeper and deeper snow to drive through just for the fun of it. 4 vbar chains and locked front/rear axles will tractor through insane areas that you would never otherwise think is possible.

I got stuck here but it's because I was on a lake and the chains dug into the ice until my front diff was sitting on ice. Had I been on firmer ground where the chains could grab rocks and roots, I would have been fine.

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Agreed, a chained up 4x4 is an awesome offroad snow ram. Just thought I'd mention that theyre not really as handy as you might think on the pavement. If you want to play offroad in deep snow, I'd be taking them! And like any other extreme offroading, you'll still end up stuck, cause that's the fun of it . . .find out what it'll do to the max. . .until stuck or upside down, etc. Best advice, don't do this alone. Go with burly friends, 4wd club, etc.
 
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350outrage

Adventurer
Thank you! You brought up an interesting point that I was going to throw out there to see if anybody had some advice. I had only ordered two chains for the front tires based on something I had read somewhere a while back, is it wise and recommended to have a chain for all four tires?


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You can run chains on front or back only. I wouldn't recommend it though. I only used them with my old 2wd vans, so occasionally would chain rear only. Lots of traction, but steering d/n match. Finally decided to chain 4 if I chained any. Thinking about it, chaining front only on a 4wd might work ok. Seriously though, If you're going into a snowed in back country area where chains would be required on your rig, please don't go alone. The only rig I'm aware of that can't get stuck is a dog sled.
 
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tgreening

Expedition Leader
Good rule of thumb to stay out of trouble off-road in a 4x4. Go offroad in 2 wheel drive. When that no longer cuts the mustard, lock in 4x4, turn around and get out. People generally do 1 0f 2 things. Head off-road in 4x4 mode and go till they're stuck, or they head off in 2x4 and go till they're stuck where they switch to 4x4 and keep going till they're stuck again. Either method leaves you no margin of safety. No big deal if you're running with a buddy or a group, but if you're flying solo like you intend to do, method #1 I listed up there at the beginning is the better safe than sorry mode of doing things.
 

350outrage

Adventurer
Good rule of thumb to stay out of trouble off-road in a 4x4. Go offroad in 2 wheel drive. When that no longer cuts the mustard, lock in 4x4, turn around and get out. People generally do 1 0f 2 things. Head off-road in 4x4 mode and go till they're stuck, or they head off in 2x4 and go till they're stuck where they switch to 4x4 and keep going till they're stuck again. Either method leaves you no margin of safety. No big deal if you're running with a buddy or a group, but if you're flying solo like you intend to do, method #1 I listed up there at the beginning is the better safe than sorry mode of doing things.

+1 on that Mr. Greening: this is the rule I always follow when exploring alone.
 

Abitibi

Explorer
Chains aren't only for snow, they work pretty good in the summer months as well when the roads disappear. There's a reason they use them on forestry rigs.

They are a great tool and as mentioned earlier they are wonderful in the snow and ice. We use them in the winter on forestry roads here in BC and if you respect your abilities (vehicle and driver) they offer a lot of safety.

More than once the weather changed on us and without chains our winter camping would have extended till the spring ;)

Great for traction up and down hills but just as much sideways to avoid those deep ditches...

They are just heavy and a pain to set up. We carry small wooden blocks to drive onto and raise the tires a few inches off the ground. Makes it way easier to put our remove the chains. :)

Cheers!
Mr. D
 

ert01

Adventurer
We carry small wooden blocks to drive onto and raise the tires a few inches off the ground. Makes it way easier to put our remove the chains. :)

Cheers!
Mr. D

I like that idea! I can imagine exactly how it'd work and I can't believe I've never thought of it! Seems so simple now.
 

350outrage

Adventurer
Chains aren't only for snow, they work pretty good in the summer months as well when the roads disappear. There's a reason they use them on forestry rigs.

They are a great tool and as mentioned earlier they are wonderful in the snow and ice. We use them in the winter on forestry roads here in BC and if you respect your abilities (vehicle and driver) they offer a lot of safety.

More than once the weather changed on us and without chains our winter camping would have extended till the spring ;)

Great for traction up and down hills but just as much sideways to avoid those deep ditches...

They are just heavy and a pain to set up. We carry small wooden blocks to drive onto and raise the tires a few inches off the ground. Makes it way easier to put our remove the chains. :)

Cheers!
Mr. D
Yeah, I agree it makes sense to use the chains that way. Guess I was just thinking in terms of my own highway travels through Colo., usually for skiing. In that case, if the roads are too bad for regular 4wd, they close them. And since getting my van 4 wheeled, I feel like someone has "Freed me from my chains!" ;-) If I was back country camping in B.C., I'd be packing them. D*mn they're heavy and a PITA though! Cheers!
 

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