Boomer the Quadravan 4x4 Camper

spencyg

This Space For Rent
Passenger side all finished up and rough sanded. 6 layers of 10oz glass and 1 layer of 6oz mat. ~0.130 thick.





I won't start fairing everything in until both sides are done so I can maintain some semblance of symmetry. I'm not really expecting for perfection with the final product as the rest of the fiberglass topper is very wavy from the factory. I just don't want it to look hacked...

That might be asking too much.

SG
 

spencyg

This Space For Rent
It's certainly an option which I've looked into before. 2 problems right out the gate is cost and trail damage. Though I'm always careful not to put Boomer in a position where actual body damage may occur, paint scratches and hanging limb/tree contact are fair game and occur frequently. I'm just not sure how long a wrap would look good before I was right back where I started. I may just color the top of the roof a sand/tan color for now and then start working my way down the body as repairs require.

SG
 

luthj

Engineer In Residence
Interlux brightside paint is a good candidate for the roof/hightop. The vanagon westy crowd uses the stuff to re-finish faded/damaged fiberglass pop-tops. It applies easily with the roll and tip method too.

If you don't mind the texture a roll-on bedliner product could be a good option. Monstaliner, herculiner, etc. Monstaliner is really thick, and has good resistance to abuse, so could be a good choice. You can also spray monstaliner if you have a garage or similar to keep the wind down.

Both these options could be done for less than 1000$ (much less with the topside paint) if you do the work.

Here is a thread with interlux paint jobs on some pop-tops
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/vi...start=20&sid=732264e4ec9829e0e54ae5e5095d0d23

Here are some shots of the sprayed monstaliner on my van.



 

Mwilliamshs

Explorer
...Also, any reason you are using polyester resin and not epoxy?

By reading I was able to answer your question. Pity you can't do the same. If you need any further assistance I'll be happy to help.

... As mentioned, all resin is polyester, not epoxy. I could have gone with epoxy but the original top was laminated with polyester and epoxy is 4x as expensive...for this project I wasn't concerned about maximizing strength to weight....just strength!...SG
 

spencyg

This Space For Rent
Easy now...there is lots of info here and its easy to miss stuff.

Lets keep Boomerville a happy place ;)

SG
 

spencyg

This Space For Rent
Interlux brightside paint is a good candidate for the roof/hightop. The vanagon westy crowd uses the stuff to re-finish faded/damaged fiberglass pop-tops. It applies easily with the roll and tip method too.

If you don't mind the texture a roll-on bedliner product could be a good option. Monstaliner, herculiner, etc. Monstaliner is really thick, and has good resistance to abuse, so could be a good choice. You can also spray monstaliner if you have a garage or similar to keep the wind down.

Both these options could be done for less than 1000$ (much less with the topside paint) if you do the work.

Here is a thread with interlux paint jobs on some pop-tops
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/vi...start=20&sid=732264e4ec9829e0e54ae5e5095d0d23

Here are some shots of the sprayed monstaliner on my van.




Just read your build thread...AWESOME STUFF!!!

I'm not sure I'll go as fancy as Interlux but it certainly would be up to the task. Their 2 part poly products are nearly indestructible! I may go cheap and do thinned brushed on rustoleum enamel, but if not I think your idea is a good one.

SG
 

justbecause

perpetually lost
I asked for a sample from someone years ago and received several pieces in the mail. It seemed like quality stuff but I ended up using 3m schutz, I would not recommend it.

While trying to find the people I contacted about samples I found this. http://www.nonslipcoating.com/ The FJ40 they have in their scrolling banner ad looks pretty nice.
 

spencyg

This Space For Rent
I don't think bedliner is the direction I'm going just due to the commitment of the coating and the ever changing build plans that require a certain level of flexibility. At this point I think the topper is getting an off-white coating, and the stripe on the body that currently matches the top will be matched. This is going to change the character of the van significantly, and even though the old "blue" will remain, I think the whole look is going to be pretty fresh. I'm excited!

SG
 

hobovan

'00 E350SD PSD
This thing is megasweet, and Maine is close to our hearts. Maybe we can wheel together if we end up back on the mid coast. Fair winds!
 

Arctic Travelller

Adventurer
After reading about you cleaning and flushing your engine, I finally got motivated and did a long overdue coolant change on my Perkin's 6354.4 after I realized it's been 10 years. Now to do my car and truck. It's just one of those things I rarely think about, but that can lead to big problems down the road when ignored. Thanks for the reminder...
 

IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
I don't think bedliner is the direction I'm going just due to the commitment of the coating and the ever changing build plans that require a certain level of flexibility. At this point I think the topper is getting an off-white coating, and the stripe on the body that currently matches the top will be matched. This is going to change the character of the van significantly, and even though the old "blue" will remain, I think the whole look is going to be pretty fresh. I'm excited!

SG

Id stay with a paint instead of a coating, for those very same reasons.

What paint and method are you leaning towards for the touchup/repaint?

Going to hire it out, or do it yourself?
 

tony326

New member
in your traveling did you have to use 4x4 much, what is your estimated total weight and gas mileage and are you running 3:55 gear ratio, do you plan on installing a turbo and overdrive
 

spencyg

This Space For Rent
What paint and method are you leaning towards for the touchup/repaint?

Going to hire it out, or do it yourself?

I'm probably going to go with Petit EZPoxy for the topper and the coordinated body stripe. Single color, likely matte off white. I'm not sure whether I'll spray or roll/tip yet. In any case, as with all other things Boomer, I'll be doing it myself. I've sprayed a few cars in my day and though I'd consider myself an uber novice, it would come out good enough for my requirements.

in your traveling did you have to use 4x4 much, what is your estimated total weight and gas mileage and are you running 3:55 gear ratio, do you plan on installing a turbo and overdrive

We use 4WD all the time, but this is mostly due to our desire to get off the beaten path. You don't need it for State Park camping, but where Boomer takes us it is essential. I wouldn't bother with a 2WD van for true adventure exploration, even if equipped with a locker. Many would argue that with the correct driving techniques this doesn't need to be a limiting factor, but to get as far with a 2WD van as you would with a 4WD van, you're pushing every limit much harder, using more momentum, relying on auxiliary traction devices (Maxtrax, etc). If you go just a little bit too far, you're totally screwed. With a 4WD van you can of course push yourself as hard (ending up much deeper into a potentially bad situation), but that isn't how we use it. Taking it easy with 4WD means going back is always an easy and safe option which doesn't rely on aggressive strategies to pull it off. With kids in the rig, this is of utmost importance.

Total weight empty is around 8500lbs. Full of fuel and water and packed for a week with 2 adults and 2 children, we're topping 10,500lbs.

On a fully loaded jaunt down the highway at 60-65 MPH, I can usually count on 10-12 MPG depending on the direction and strength of the wind (really). Adding a Gear Vendors overdrive to the end of the NP205 is in the long term plan, as is the replacement of the stock C6 torque converter with a high efficiency towing unit. I currently experience around 5% slip from the stocker, and aftermarket heavy duty towing units advertise around 2% slip. This translates directly to efficiency in my book which helps both with fuel consumption as well as transmission heat.

A turbo would be added after the Overdrive, and only if it was really felt to be necessary. Hypermax sells a bolt on kit for the '87 E350 with the 6.9 and it isn't too terribly expensive. I just hate adding complexity to the drivetrain and will only do it if there is a clear need experienced over multiple trips. We have experienced this need with the OD because current highway RPM's hang out around 2600 @ 65MPH. I'd like to see it around 2100-2200 RPM without altering my axle ratios. Noise would go way down and I think we'd see an appreciable gain in fuel efficiency (~10-15%)

SG
 
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spencyg

This Space For Rent
A bit more progress on the window blank in project.

The other side has been filled in with an equal number of layers of glass.



The weather has taken a bit of a turn the last couple days so I've got the first couple layers of fairing filler applied and sanded but things are stalled until it dries up a bit outside.



I have also landed on the finishing technique for the top.



Marine grade stuff which will be applied with the "roll and tip" method. I've done this before and think the results will be satisfactory for Boomer's typical usage. I would spray it if we were going to car shows, but that isn't the point here.

My sights are beginning to land on the roof rack build. I've decided to incorporate a aluminum box up top to fill the forward gap where the roof slopes down to the lower level. Looking at raw material costs, I have decided to recycle an older aluminum truck toolbox which will be arriving tomorrow. I should be able to build the entire new box from material sourced from this abandoned "junk". The fiberglass top painting project will happen after the rack build, so be looking for progress on this over the next week.

SG
 

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