Brakes upgrade Gen 2.5

Salonika

Monterror Pilot
I've never had the dash that far apart, but I'd like to think that it would be difficult to miss a single connector that would only affect the ABS.......it could have just been a coincidence if you had a true failure. I'll bet if you follow J-n-M's advice, the code won't come back.
 

evomaki

Observer
freewaycross,

What tool did you have that worked on the Mitsu SRS? I have not had to reset any SRS codes, but did buy an Autel scan tool with ABS and SRS capability. That tool said it worked on Mitsu, updated the thing online, and still nothing. Finding a confirmed scan tool that works on Mitsu ABS and SRS is like finding a unicorn. Your best bet, any of our best bet, might be to look first at the manufacturer of the tool you have.
 

cr4x4cruiser

Observer
A] It's a Gen 2.5, which leads me to believe your rig may be on the high-side of miles...
it is possible the source of your conudrum might lead you back to the Vacumm Brake Booster Check Valve; which if it is failing will give you that "spongy brakes" feeling, as well as require greater distances for stopping.

B] Not withstanding the above, as mentioned previously, there is very likely the presence of air in the system...
"spongy brakes" are definitely linked to air in the system.

C] Replacing all of the - rubber - soft lines would not be unreasonable at all...
again, age is your enemy.

In my situation, I do not have a garage to work out of, I would be inclined to take it in and let a couple of pro's have a few hours with it.
You have good tires, the only other important piece on that rig is brakes... everything else is secondary.

Good luck...
 

freewayross

Adventurer
A] It's a Gen 2.5, which leads me to believe your rig may be on the high-side of miles...
it is possible the source of your conudrum might lead you back to the Vacumm Brake Booster Check Valve; which if it is failing will give you that "spongy brakes" feeling, as well as require greater distances for stopping.

B] Not withstanding the above, as mentioned previously, there is very likely the presence of air in the system...
"spongy brakes" are definitely linked to air in the system.

C] Replacing all of the - rubber - soft lines would not be unreasonable at all...
again, age is your enemy.

In my situation, I do not have a garage to work out of, I would be inclined to take it in and let a couple of pro's have a few hours with it.
You have good tires, the only other important piece on that rig is brakes... everything else is secondary.

Good luck...

Thanks, the rig has 117k miles only!:smiley_drive:

We have bled the whole system at least 10 times, all 4 wheels and the brake load balancer thing. Need to look about changing flex lines.
 

cr4x4cruiser

Observer
Yeah, we have two... '98 w/ 110.000, '99 w/ 112.000... low miles, for sure - but rubber's enemy is time/ elements. Any rig this old will be a candidate for - at least - soft brake line replacements.

Trying to locate Stainless Steel Braided Lines for both, which definitely firms up the pedal/ feel.

Have yet to have any luck... if/ when we do we'll be sure to post.

It seems rather odd, but whether searching for Montero or Pajero, these Gen 2.5's do not seem to have the support that others do - when it comes to Braided Brake Lines.

Good luck,

Wm.
 

Toasty

Looking for that thing i just had in my hand...
Trying to locate Stainless Steel Braided Lines

It seems rather odd, but whether searching for Montero or Pajero, these Gen 2.5's do not seem to have the support that others do - when it comes to Braided Brake Lines.

Good luck,

Wm.

I'm going to start making them soon, yes i know i say that about a lot of things but I'm 2 bumpers and 20 chromo idler arms away from stainless steel braided brake lines. Ha ha ha, i suck.
 

Toasty

Looking for that thing i just had in my hand...
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R&D on this setup currently, bit bigger than stock with more cooling fins. I'll let you giys know how well it all works to stop these silly big tires.
 
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braided steel lines are off the shelf item in some hydraulic line shops. fittings for either end the same story.
oil filter service here in portland had me a set out the door in 15 minutes.

but if someone is going to do up custom stuff for my rig and sell them here, then i would
go for that convenience.
 

Toasty

Looking for that thing i just had in my hand...
is that with sport knuckles, Toasty ?

No, that caused alignment problems. The location of the steering arm was different, I'm trying something else. I'll let you guys know if it works.

As for the replacement lines any hydraulic shop can hook it up, i was a hydraulic tech for Caterpillar a while back and the shop is a couple miles from my house. I figured maybe not everybody has access to this kind of stuff depending on location so i might as well get into that as well.
 

plh

Explorer
I've got a write up on 4x4wire on how to do DOT braided stainless lines on my Gen 1 with off the shelf parts. Gen 2 is very similar.
 

bikerjosh

Explorer
I came to this thread wondering 'WTH!', my Montero stops way shorter with more control, than my 🐷 of a truck 06' 4 dr Tundra.
Bleeding brakes can be really weird, some cars like my old 3rd gen 4runner you had to bleed the brakes until the cows came home to get a firm pedal and all the air out of the lines. Given I was running Cadillac disks in the back, w/a Chevy blazer master, w/wilwood portioning valve.
At this point,I'd opt for replacing the lines w/SS.
Good luck
 

plh

Explorer
Parts list for Gen 1 with Gen 2 SR front Calipers/Rotors

Russell - their brake lines are DOT. Earls aren't - be careful with this, its a safety item.

2x RUS-656242 (Front Hoses)

Rear:
RUS-656242 - check the length.

3x RUS-641411 (10mm to AN3 adapters)
 

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