NM-Frontier
Explorer
Glad to hear he's still in to it! Looking forward to the next opportunity, because after my last pack up of the RTT with frozen fingers I may be getting pop-top fever!
CAMPTEQ's 80 Series Land Cruiser pop top Prototype
- Thread starter thecriscokid
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LandCruiserPhil
Expedition Leader
My guess is because at $5K one would be hard pressed to make it profitable given the limited market and development cost.
We never talked money, ever. I simply said "I'm very interested in giving you my 100 as a prototype to build out, and I'm in Colorado as well. You can have my truck as long as you need, and my schedule is flexible." That's it. The reply I got was that he was too busy with other projects. I mentioned here on this forum in my post that was willing to pay "over $5k" because I know the 80 version starts at $5,500, so I have no idea what the 100 version would cost but it would be over $5k. I'm not some pie in the sky dreamer with holes in my pockets, I am ready and willing to for over cash to have the conversion done on my truck, but the 2 reputable entities that I know of both have declined or ignored my request.
I offered the same and with the same results. I doubt we are the only two. Not knocking Eric for this, good for him to be able to choose what he wants to do and when he wants to do it. I do hope he builds these for the 100 one day, at around $5K, but I'm not holding my breath.
SEETHEWORLD349
Observer
Hey Erick
Please get back to me
I have cash ready and can drive to colorado as soon as you tell me
Its another sage 40th
Looking for partial rear roof removal
Two hannibal miunts and solar panel
I have left a voicemail or two but no call back yet
Hoping to get it done before Overland Expo
Cesar
6143120737
Please get back to me
I have cash ready and can drive to colorado as soon as you tell me
Its another sage 40th
Looking for partial rear roof removal
Two hannibal miunts and solar panel
I have left a voicemail or two but no call back yet
Hoping to get it done before Overland Expo
Cesar
6143120737
SEETHEWORLD349
Observer
I finally got a hold of him so for now I can say it looks like a comeback is possible soon
I guess he will post on here when he is ready
start saving $$$$$ guys
NM-Frontier
Explorer
Good to hear! Glad some one got a hold of him!
NM-Frontier
Explorer
Ah man just had to watch this again,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RoNCiEauGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RoNCiEauGE
zimm
Expedition Leader
its fastened by gutter clamps, so im guessing theres no serious alteration to the truck structure other than hacking a hole and trimwork.
that having been said, a 100 would require attachment to the captive nuts of the factory rack system, and a loss of perimeter support of the gutters. its a different more complicated design.
also, if you want one that bad, drive to your local commercial truck body fabricator with the video. have them fab it, then go to an automobile upholster shop for the tent fabric. you can hack your own hole.
id have the upholster insert a perimeter bungie/shock cord mid height to make closing simple, and cut down any wind flapping.
that having been said, a 100 would require attachment to the captive nuts of the factory rack system, and a loss of perimeter support of the gutters. its a different more complicated design.
also, if you want one that bad, drive to your local commercial truck body fabricator with the video. have them fab it, then go to an automobile upholster shop for the tent fabric. you can hack your own hole.
id have the upholster insert a perimeter bungie/shock cord mid height to make closing simple, and cut down any wind flapping.
zimm
Expedition Leader
but YOU talked money, and anything other than "i'll pay the time and material for the custom one off im requesting" is a joke. you basically stated you have a "not to exceed number", in the therabouts of a production model that is easier to manufacture and has the benefit of the design and development costs being pro rated out over multiple units. why would he take that on? i dont know what his reason for not returning the call is, but i sure wouldnt.
he can find a donor truck anywhere. the way you present your rig as bringing something to the table of value, and the cash limitations, you sound like an unrealistic squirrel. 5000 is piss in a bucket for custom body work.
Having made a pop top for a 100 series, I would agree that it is far more complicated than for an 80. You do have to use the nuts for the factory roof rack, which means you need a complex sub frame with odd curved/angled landing pads etc. While the materials for mine were likely less than $5k, if I were to value my time at all the cost would be well north of $15k. That said, it is still cool:
PS Depending how much weight you want on the roof, and the length of your struts, 500N (~ 100lb) per side is about right for the struts. With a heavy roof box, I switch to 750N self locking struts.
PS Depending how much weight you want on the roof, and the length of your struts, 500N (~ 100lb) per side is about right for the struts. With a heavy roof box, I switch to 750N self locking struts.
NM-Frontier
Explorer
Agreed, the ability to attach the top to the rain gutters makes it a lot simpler for the 80 vs the 100. Witch in turn keeps the cost down, well relatively.
Rando your top looks great very pro looking!
I wander how many other home made/engineered pop tops are out there?
Rando your top looks great very pro looking!
I wander how many other home made/engineered pop tops are out there?
LandCruiserPhil
Expedition Leader
How long does it take to open a CampTeq video
FWIW - My roof is NOT cut
FWIW - My roof is NOT cut