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Herbie

Rendezvous Conspirator
As Promised, Power Consumption Data

Hello Everyone. As promised, I am publishing the results of my first round of testing the power consumption of the FP430 (43qt) Edgestar.

If anyone is curious to see the graphs, etc., the summary is here, and the complete data file is here, if you're really into looking at pages of data.

Here's the basic test setup:
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I used a 15A laboratory power supply (set to 13.2VDC), in series with a high-current precision shunt to power the fridge via the DC input. A DMM w/ RS-232 output measures the voltage drop over the shunt, and I use that to calculate the current. In this case, 1A=1mV, so you can understand that the voltage drop is very small, less than the drop over an equivalent long set of power cables.

For my first test, I logged a reading every 15s for 24 hours. The fridge was set to 36F (keeping my root beer and water bottles cold but not frozen) and the room was thermostatically controlled to 72F. It's been cold here in SoCal this week, so this was the best I could manage. When the weather warms up, I'll repeat the test for 24hours in a locked car. I expect that power usage would obviously go up some, but you can see from the results that even with a significant increase in the compressor duty cycle, the fridge so far is looking pretty thrifty (for this steady-state condition). Obviously getting food in/out, putting in warm drinks to be cooled down, etc. is going to drive up the power budget, but the goal of this first test was to get a baseline for the "average" power consumption - much more useful than the peak current number alone.
An interesting note: With this setup, I can measure current as small as about 600 uA (or six-tenths of a milli-amp), so I was surprised to find that the idle current (compressor not running) was apparently even smaller than that, because when idling the text fixture reads zero. Now obviously it isn't really zero, but it's small enough I feel comfortable calling it "negligible".

OK, enough faffing about, here are the highlights:

Model: FP430
Peak Amps: 4.782
Compressor-On Duty Cycle: 16.67% (holding 36F at 72F ambient)
Total Amp-Hours (24H elapsed): 14.1151
Avg. "Amp-Hours per Hour": 0.58823

Now, the reason for doing all of this, and to put my money where my data is, I'll be using this to choose the house battery I'm about to order in my rush to get ready for Overland Expo. Based on the Total Amp-Hours consumed, I feel pretty confident that I can get away with a single AGM battery of around 85AH or so, since the one's I'm looking at actually measure out at over 100AH at a 100-hour draw rate. This should give me more than 72 hours of fridge operation and still keep to the recommended 50% discharge limit.

I hope someone else finds this useful, and I'll post back when I can run the test again in hotter weather.
 

twblanset

Observer
$384 on Amazon right now.
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/43-Portable-Compact-Refrigerator-Freezer/dp/B0012EGZ9S"]Amazon.com: 43 Qt Portable Compact Refrigerator Freezer - EdgeStar: Automotive[/ame]
 

JamesDowning

Explorer
Good data Herbie. It would be interesting to see an overlay of the internal temperature on the current v. time graph. I was surprised at how infrequent the fridge actually ran. I was expecting it to run a few times an hour, however it seems it actually runs about once every 70 minutes.

It would also be interesting to see similar datasets from the competing fridges. I know they are advertised to pull lower amperage when the compressor is running. I wonder if they end up with a higher duty cycle due to them drawing less power (I can't imagine the efficiency of the different compressors being that drastically different).

I'd also imagine that your amp-hour number should be fairly scalable with the delta T of the temperatures. For instance: 0 delta = 0 amp-hour per hour draw, 36 delta = 0.58 amp-hour per hour draw. So based upon the linear relationship between delta T and heat flux via conduction, it should draw about 1.16 amp-hours per hour at 72 delta (or ~108F ambient).
 

craig333

Expedition Leader
Thanks. More or less confirms my suspicions but its nice to have some hard numbers to back them up.
 

RubiconGeoff

Adventurer
Very well done!

Thanks for your time and effort to analyze this freezer/fridge. I'm quite happy with mine, and it's really nice to see some real-world data. Keep up the good work!
 

Herbie

Rendezvous Conspirator
Good data Herbie. It would be interesting to see an overlay of the internal temperature on the current v. time graph. I was surprised at how infrequent the fridge actually ran. I was expecting it to run a few times an hour, however it seems it actually runs about once every 70 minutes.

That's my goal for the next round. I have a little USB temperature sensor but it only comes with a nasty little windows program. I plan to write a linux driver for it and log the internal temperature along with the current. The DMM program I used, QtDMM, can trigger external programs, so I figure I'll have it kick off the thermal logger when it starts it's current logging.

It would also be interesting to see similar datasets from the competing fridges. I know they are advertised to pull lower amperage when the compressor is running. I wonder if they end up with a higher duty cycle due to them drawing less power (I can't imagine the efficiency of the different compressors being that drastically different).

I'd also imagine that your amp-hour number should be fairly scalable with the delta T of the temperatures. For instance: 0 delta = 0 amp-hour per hour draw, 36 delta = 0.58 amp-hour per hour draw. So based upon the linear relationship between delta T and heat flux via conduction, it should draw about 1.16 amp-hours per hour at 72 delta (or ~108F ambient).

Anyone who wants to leave a competing model fridge in my care so that I can run the same test is welcome to! :) I imagine that the competing fridges are probably a bit more efficient, overall - once you get the box down to temperature the first time, the steady-state duty cycle is more a factor of thermal mass and insulation. A more efficient compressor just means it should take fewer amp-hours to correct the delta T back to the set point - it shouldn't have to run more often unless for some reason it warms up quicker.

I agree that for a steady-state condition, the duty cycle (and thus the amp-hour draw) should probably scale linearly with delta T. Another run at a higher ambient temp. should help confirm that.
 

bob91yj

Resident **************
All I know for sure is mine works great. It's going to get beat around in the Jeep for 1500 miles of dirt next month in Baja, I'll report back then!
 

JamesDowning

Explorer
Anyone who wants to leave a competing model fridge in my care so that I can run the same test is welcome to! :) I imagine that the competing fridges are probably a bit more efficient, overall - once you get the box down to temperature the first time, the steady-state duty cycle is more a factor of thermal mass and insulation. A more efficient compressor just means it should take fewer amp-hours to correct the delta T back to the set point - it shouldn't have to run more often unless for some reason it warms up quicker.

If they are drawing that much less current, I'd imagine the compressor just ends up running longer during it's 'on' cycles. In a very vague comparison, it's like two similar vehicles on a steep hill. One has a V8, the other a 4 cyl. The V8 can get up the hill faster than the 4 cyl, but theoretically they are using the same amount of energy to get there.

Unless the competitors are leaps and bounds ahead in insulation and compressor efficiency, I doubt you'd see that much difference in total energy used (as in, it's not really related to the amp-draw spec).
 

RubiconGeoff

Adventurer
Anyone who wants to leave a competing model fridge in my care so that I can run the same test is welcome to! :) I imagine that the competing fridges are probably a bit more efficient, overall - once you get the box down to temperature the first time, the steady-state duty cycle is more a factor of thermal mass and insulation. A more efficient compressor just means it should take fewer amp-hours to correct the delta T back to the set point - it shouldn't have to run more often unless for some reason it warms up quicker.

I agree that for a steady-state condition, the duty cycle (and thus the amp-hour draw) should probably scale linearly with delta T. Another run at a higher ambient temp. should help confirm that.

Anyone read the fridge comparison in Overland Journal? The EdgeStar had the most powerful compressor and the least efficient insulation. But at such a lower cost than all the others, it totally wins any price/performance comparison.
 

Xterabl

Adventurer
Well, many people with your setup would probably run a surplus and never run down the batteries before they re-charge them through driving, solar, etc., in which case the Engel is definitely more expensive than the Edgestar all things considered.
 

NuggetHoarder

Adventurer
Well, many people with your setup would probably run a surplus and never run down the batteries before they re-charge them through driving, solar, etc., in which case the Engel is definitely more expensive than the Edgestar all things considered.

The way it breaks down for me is: I have two house batteries mounted under the rear seats. Each is 100ah for a total of 200ah available. Using good battery management means never using more than 60%, so my available amps are 120ah. I have one 135 watt solar panel on the roof rack that puts out 7 amps. Figuring an average of 4 hours of sunlight per day, I can gain about 25AH back through solar. This setup lets me run an Engel fridge plus campsite lanterns, water pump, laptops, etc. for a week without cranking the engine. If I go to an Edgestar, I would have to add either more batteries (no room plus too heavy) or more solar panels (no room on roof rack and very expensive) or pick up and move to another campsite on or about day 3. That makes the Engel worth it to me.

Otherwise I think the Edgestar is awesome. The price is right, and I wish I didn't need the ability to sit for more than a couple days. If I was only doing weekend trips, I'd definitely want an Edgestar over an Engel.
 

Pedro

Capitan rally fluffer
Why would you have to pick up and move campsites? you could just run the rig for an hour or so to top off the house batteries.
 

NuggetHoarder

Adventurer
Why would you have to pick up and move campsites? you could just run the rig for an hour or so to top off the house batteries.

It takes about 4 hours to fully charge my battery bank from the alternator. That's with some beefy 4AWG wire too. A lot of it has to do with heat. As the batteries get hot, the charge controller will drop the current to protect the batteries, even though my battery system can pull 50 amps from the alternator.

From websites like AAA and others, I've found the statistic that it takes 1 gallon of gas to idle your car for one hour. I'm on the road about 30 weeks a year, and I need to recharge batteries once a week. So the math works out to 30 weeks X 4 hours X 1 gallon = 120 gallons a year X $3 a gallon gas = $360 a year.

So that's $360 a year, not including wear and tear on the engine, to recharge batteries using the Jeep's engine. An Engel fridge is $375 more than an Edgestar, so the savings of an Edgestar is wiped out in the first year, and it makes the Engel cheaper than the Edgestar in subsequent years.

Like I mentioned a couple posts ago, when you get into solar and batteries, every amp is worth a fortune. While the Edgestar saves you a lot of cash upfront, you end up paying in other ways if you're trying to run a battery bank and solar panels. If I wasn't on the road as much as I am and if I didn't run a solar system, the Edgestar would be perfect.
 

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