Chevrolet offering serious off-road performance parts for the ZR2 in 2019, never seen this kind of OEM support
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DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
You can order the TRD Pro suspension. Part number for the 05-15 trucks is PTR13-35150. It's discontinued now, though, and I don't remember what it cost. That was the complete suspension IIRC.
For the 3rd gens the front TRD Pro FOX coil overs are:
PTR61-35170-RF
PTR61-35170-LF
The rear piggyback shocks:
PTR61-35170-RR
PTR61-35170-LR
The fronts list for $1,090.59 and the rear shocks list for $925.76.
jeep-N-montero
Expedition Leader
With the price of the truck plus add-ons you could easily buy a Raptor and actually tow stuff safely, just stating this from a financial standpoint.
From a financial standpoint, you don't have to buy any of these add-on's. You could just buy a lower trim Colorado (and add some mild modifications) or a slightly used ZR2.
plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
Nice stuff, crazy prices though. Noticed the Chris Cordes homepage article talking about how surprisingly affordable the bison is at 50k... lol. I would say they will have a hard time selling but most of the payment shoppers will line up to buy one. Personally I thinks its nuts to pay 50k for truck that I can't fit in the backseat, and the bed is too small to lay down in.
Todd780
OverCamper
I think here, the Bison will end up being cheaper than a Tacoma PRO or Gladiator / Scrambler Rubicon. Still big bucks for a small truck though!
Wallygator
Adventurer
The days of affordable trucks have come and gone long ago
Buliwyf
Viking with a Hammer
If you skip the bling, they're not all so bad. Mine was 38 000 otd thanks to rebates. You can get regular cab plow trucks all day long for that.
You're not going to get any breaks on ''off road'' models with suede leather floors and Italian coffee makers built in.
People still think I paid 55k. ''You paid extra for the optional rubber floors?'' Lol. ''Where'd you get the black grill?'' All you have to do is grab a set of Method NV's and people completely miss the xl badge. As if xl or stx were still legit base models anymore. They're not, most of the time.
You're not going to get any breaks on ''off road'' models with suede leather floors and Italian coffee makers built in.
People still think I paid 55k. ''You paid extra for the optional rubber floors?'' Lol. ''Where'd you get the black grill?'' All you have to do is grab a set of Method NV's and people completely miss the xl badge. As if xl or stx were still legit base models anymore. They're not, most of the time.
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DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Have new vehicles ever been "affordable"?
Anyway, for comparison. A DLX (base) 4x4 22R-E, automatic, 4WD XtraCab was $13,700 in 1991. Adjusted for inflation that's $25,500. My '91 had power steering which was still optional on 2WD. It had an AM/FM radio and a bench seat.
A base SR 4wd 4 cylinder Tacoma in 2018 is $28,600. It's not 100% equal because the SR now gets A/C, cruise control, bucket seats, power windows, CD/MP3. It would be much closer to an SR5 in 1991. So comparing those, a V6, automatic, XtraCab, 4WD SR5 in 1991 was $17,200 and that's $31,900 in 2018 Dollars. An SR5 V6 4WD now is $33,810.
So maybe you're complaining about feature creep and that if they still sold a less optioned truck the real price, even not fully adjusted for inflation, would be cheaper. Like what happened with electronics and computers over the same time period. But you'd have to go back pretty far to find the turning point when automobile manufacturing wasn't relatively efficient and still labor intensive. Not to mention that in 2018 there are many more mandated things like emissions, safety that require complexity so the fluff you get is largely coming along for the cost and purely profit for the car company.
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Why would it be less expensive than a TRD Pro? Never mind the brand debates; the Bison has front and rear lockers, side rails, a winch-ready front bumper and a unique (for the truck market) suspension.
A $50k MSRP is a lot, but that price isn't out of line with the MSRP's of other factory-built offroaders (Power Wagon, Jeep Rubicon). $50k is the minimum price of entry for performance-oriented vehicles in other categories. Good luck finding a new GT350 or BMW M4 for anything less than $50k. The demand for performance is high, so the market is priced accordingly....that's just the way capitalism works.
Also, I do believe AEV is intending to sell the Bison components via the aftermarket. So it may very well be possible to buy a used ZR2, add some Bison components and save some money.
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Todd780
OverCamper
TRD Pro up here is 55k. A gas ZR2 is roughly 46k. So I think the Bison will be less expensive than a TRD Pro by a couple grand maybe.
I'm not debating the value of the vehicle, just that to me personally 50K is a lot of money for a 1/4 ton truck. As you mentioned, that's Power Wagon kind of money.
You're up in Canada?
TRD Pro's start at around $43k south of the border. Considering that the ZR2 gasoline goes for roughly the same price, I do think the Bison will end up being more expensive, at least down here.
And for the record, I wasn't arguing in favor of the Bison's value. I'm just stating that the pricing is in line with that of other offroaders.
Todd780
OverCamper
Yup, up in the great white north...
Yes, it's crazy the difference in MSRP's. in Canada vs. the U.S. 4Runner's are about 10K cheaper in the States vs. here. I *think* same for Tacomas.
I was a little off... MSRP for a 2019 TRD Pro is almost 57k here. See link below...
https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/build-price/tacoma
Oh I agree. I thought the price vs. the competition for the Bison is in line if not even a little better given the extras you get.
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plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
With the gladiator at least it appears they have listened to consumers and gave it decent payload and excellent towing numbers for what it is.