Chevrolet offering serious off-road performance parts for the ZR2 in 2019, never seen this kind of OEM support

Dalko43

Explorer
Also, let's not forget (although most have tried) that GM put the lovely 5.7 based Olds diesel in their 1/2tons in 1978. GM also offered the 6.2 and 6.5t in 1/2tons all the way through the squarebody and GMT400 series trucks.

Jack

Point taken, though there may have been good reason for forgetting the 5.7l Oldsmobile diesel.

So FCA wasn't the first to introduce a diesel into the 1/2 ton market, but they were the first to reintroduce a diesel engine after a lengthy absence in that market segment.
 
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Clutch

<---Pass
You sure about that? ;)

In a 4wd I will give you that, but far from the first in a pickup.

Jack

Oh yeah almost forgot

Chevy had a 2WD coil rear back in the late 60's.

Dodge/Chrysler also had push button trans...in the late 50's early 60's??? IIRC

280px-Chrysler_imperial_dash_push_button_transmission%3D1956.jpg
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Also, let's not forget (although most have tried) that GM put the lovely 5.7 based Olds diesel in their 1/2tons in 1978. GM also offered the 6.2 and 6.5t in 1/2tons all the way through the squarebody and GMT400 series trucks.

Jack

Those were so horrible we try to forget 'em. ;) :D
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Oh yeah almost forgot

Chevy had a 2WD coil rear back in the late 60's.

Dodge/Chrysler also had push button trans...in the late 50's early 60's??? IIRC

280px-Chrysler_imperial_dash_push_button_transmission%3D1956.jpg
My first car, a 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 4 door sedan, had a Powerflite 2-speed automatic transmission with the push button selector. I inherited it from my mom and dad, it was their first car into the early 1970s. They stored it in a barn for about 10 or so years until I turned 15, at which point we brought it home and dad and I worked on getting it running again.

Took my license exam in that car and wrecked it about two weeks after getting my license. Took out a Pontiac something or other. I did a ********-ton of damage to that guy's poor car and wrinkled the finder on mine. Fixed it back up and drove it the rest of my time in high school.

Interest note, in those days there were no parking prawls or electronic controls, 100% hydraulic, so you could push start your car with an automatic. The spinning of the fluid pump in neutral would work backwards and spin up the engine when you pushed the low button. It was also technically possible to request reverse while moving forward.

You could fit 8 teenagers inside and another 3 or 4 in the trunk. The sheet metal was about 1/8" thick on that thing and you could stand, literally stand, inside the engine bay there was so little stuff and so much room. Mine had the 273 V8 with the huge oil bath air filter.

Oh, yeah, all the trim was stainless steel, not chrome. I wish I wasn't so stupid and still had that and the 1963 Apache Eagle camper my grandparents gave me and I sold.

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Clutch

<---Pass
My first car, a 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 4 door sedan, had a Powerflite 2-speed automatic transmission with the push button selector. I inherited it from my mom and dad, it was their first car into the early 1970s. They stored it in a barn for about 10 or so years until I turned 15, at which point we brought it home and dad and I worked on getting it running again.

Took my license exam in that car and wrecked it about two weeks after getting my license. Took out a Pontiac something or other. I did a ****-ton of damage to that guy's poor car and wrinkled the finder on mine. Fixed it back up and drove it the rest of my time in high school.

Interest note, in those days there were no parking prawls or electronic controls, 100% hydraulic, so you could push start your car with an automatic. The spinning of the fluid pump in neutral would work backwards and spin up the engine when you pushed the low button. It was also technically possible to request reverse while moving forward.

You could fit 8 teenagers inside and another 3 or 4 in the trunk. The sheet metal was about 1/8" thick on that thing and you could stand, literally stand, inside the engine bay there was so little stuff and so much room. Mine had the 273 V8 with the huge oil bath air filter.

Oh, yeah, all the trim was stainless steel, not chrome. I wish I wasn't so stupid and still had that and the 1963 Apache Eagle camper my grandparents gave me and I sold.

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Back when men were men and cars were tanks! :D

The air suspension is an option on the Rebel. TFL truck just bought a new one w/o air for a long term tester.

They financed that!? Apparently having a youtube vehicle testing series, doesn't pay all that well...
 

plainjaneFJC

Deplorable
Back when men were men and cars were tanks! :D



They financed that!? Apparently having a youtube vehicle testing series, doesn't pay all that well...
Funny I noticed that to. Only thing is cash flow is so important, they make 1 payment this year yet depreciate 50k. That move could save Roman 15ish on federal taxes this year.
 

Wallygator

Adventurer
Have new vehicles ever been "affordable"?

Anyway, for comparison. A DLX (base) 4x4 22R-E, automatic, 4WD XtraCab was $13,700 in 1991. Adjusted for inflation that's $25,500. My '91 had power steering which was still optional on 2WD. It had an AM/FM radio and a bench seat.

A base SR 4wd 4 cylinder Tacoma in 2018 is $28,600. It's not 100% equal because the SR now gets A/C, cruise control, bucket seats, power windows, CD/MP3. It would be much closer to an SR5 in 1991. So comparing those, a V6, automatic, XtraCab, 4WD SR5 in 1991 was $17,200 and that's $31,900 in 2018 Dollars. An SR5 V6 4WD now is $33,810.

So maybe you're complaining about feature creep and that if they still sold a less optioned truck the real price, even not fully adjusted for inflation, would be cheaper. Like what happened with electronics and computers over the same time period. But you'd have to go back pretty far to find the turning point when automobile manufacturing wasn't relatively efficient and still labor intensive. Not to mention that in 2018 there are many more mandated things like emissions, safety that require complexity so the fluff you get is largely coming along for the cost and purely profit for the car company.

Yeah I know. Don't think I will ever stop complaining about the price of things from here on out. I guess I'm getting older. It's all relative and I prefer the base models @Buliwyf....But none of this is helping me to afford or pull the trigger on that sweet diesel ZR2.
 

DaveInDenver

Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Yeah I know. Don't think I will ever stop complaining about the price of things from here on out. I guess I'm getting older. It's all relative and I prefer the base models @Buliwyf....But none of this is helping me to afford or pull the trigger on that sweet diesel ZR2.
I'm getting along in years enough that inflation makes things noticeably more "expensive" even though I know historical value != Dollar price necessarily. It's still our nature to see a smaller number as better even despite our awareness that prices cannot ever be allowed to fall in a consumption economy.
 

Regcabguy

Oil eater.
Oh yeah almost forgot

Chevy had a 2WD coil rear back in the late 60's.

Dodge/Chrysler also had push button trans...in the late 50's early 60's??? IIRC

280px-Chrysler_imperial_dash_push_button_transmission%3D1956.jpg
Yep. My folks had the pushbuttons in their Dodge and a friend had the rear coil rear axle with trailing arms.
The GMC same year had trusty rear leafs.
 

jbeer

Member
Has Chevy introduced a FREE side air bag replacement kit for the ZR2 yet????

Yes, Chevy issued a 'customer-satisfaction initiative to recalibrate the thresholds for the roof mounted side air bags for ZR2 owners. The updated calibration is available as of today, and will be installed free of charge the next time the customers takes their ZR2 to a Chevrolet dealer.' They are also reimbursing customers who had issues prior to this fix coming out.

Airbag jokes over, problem solved :)
 

Dalko43

Explorer
Heard it was only about 10 trucks it happened to anyway

I don't know how many Colorado's had the airbag issue, but every brand is susceptible to internet drama. Toyota forums complain about cam tower leaks for the 5.7l v8, GM forums complain about air bag issues, Ram forums complain about 68RFE issues....every brand has its own issues. The relevant question is: how common are those issues?
 

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