Clutch’s deep thoughts thread...

Todd780

OverCamper
The interior is great, big windows, low belt line...lots of visibility. Gives you a commanding view of the road. Where-as many of the vehicles now-a-days feel like your driving a foxhole around. No wonder they have cameras mounted all over them.
Yep. I think as far as visibility goes, the '99 Tahoe I had was the best that I owned. (Or maybe the two reg cab s/box Sierra's.) It's the closest thing I can imagine to sitting in an AMC Pacer. That thing was all window.
 

bkg

Explorer
@Clutch... you should be proud of me...

Found out we get discounts on Fords... so I test drove a '19 F350 on Friday. They offered me a pretty good deal on my 16... But they couldn't find what I wanted (F350 CCLB Diesel Platinum w/o moonroof)… The one they found that was close was a Limited Dually... I laughed at the list price.

Really liked the new cab... and the 935LB of torque.... but I didn't buy anything. Even my wife was a bit surprised. lol
 

Clutch

<---Pass
@Clutch... you should be proud of me...

Found out we get discounts on Fords... so I test drove a '19 F350 on Friday. They offered me a pretty good deal on my 16... But they couldn't find what I wanted (F350 CCLB Diesel Platinum w/o moonroof)… The one they found that was close was a Limited Dually... I laughed at the list price.

Really liked the new cab... and the 935LB of torque.... but I didn't buy anything. Even my wife was a bit surprised. lol

What was the limited $80-90K?

Oh...I'll give it a week or two, and you'll buy a new truck.
 

bkg

Explorer
Yeow!



Riiiiiiiight.....

Yeah... Can't imagine that, plus fees, plus 9.25% sales tax... that's a 6-figure truck.

Ironically, the dealer had 3 modified F250's... lift, cosmetics... each over $100K. Sales guy told me they'd be sold w/in a couple of weeks. :eek:

You under estimate my stubbornness. :p
 

Regcabguy

Oil eater.
Makes total sense. That's kind of what I mean by having my truck seat adjusted so it's like sitting in a chair. Whether I'm driving my truck or sitting at my desk, I'm almost in the same position. Maybe I'm old and just can't do the gangsta lean when I drive, lol
My feelings exactly. I always feel like I'm sitting on the floor in a Tacoma/4Runner.
I owned a 2000 Trooper for a whopping 6K until a guy rear-ended me at 45 mph. $13K in damage in a second including frame damage. It took 3.5 months to secure all the body components and put it back together. AAA provided a Camry at a cost of $4500. The vehicle was never the same. They ate it and so did I.
Excellent off highway.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Yeah... Can't imagine that, plus fees, plus 9.25% sales tax... that's a 6-figure truck.

Just nuts..

Ironically, the dealer had 3 modified F250's... lift, cosmetics... each over $100K. Sales guy told me they'd be sold w/in a couple of weeks. :eek:

Probably never see dirt either.

You under estimate my stubbornness. :p

But I know you have vehicle ADD... :D

You have been saying you have been wanting a dually...just a matter of time before you off the '16. :) You know you want a new truck...doet!
 
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bkg

Explorer
Just nuts..



Probably never see dirt either.



But I know you have vehicle ADD... :D

You have been saying you have been wanting a dually...just a matter of time before you off the '16. :) You know you want a new truck...doet!

Now I’m going to wait at least a month... just out of spite!

I would really like a dually. Just done *need* to compensate that much. ?
 

battleaxe

Captain Obvious
Had a chat with the welder at work, and when you really get down to it... What's really out there on the market? What vehicle intrigues you enough to spend far more money than they should be worth, and want to keep them for years to come?

Sister in laws boyfriend just ditched his '08 Chev 2500 HD for a '19. Between their Yukon XL, and the new 2500 they have 200k in vehicles in the driveway... I think they're 'worth' more than the house they live in.

The thing that gets me the most, is he traded the '08 in because he couldn't get it started the other morning. (It was around -35° here, and he didn't plug it in) He just said it was getting old and not worth keeping around if it wouldn't start. Like seriously dude? Nothing starts happily in that weather, let alone a diesel, that hasn't been plugged in.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Had a chat with the welder at work, and when you really get down to it... What's really out there on the market? What vehicle intrigues you enough to spend far more money than they should be worth, and want to keep them for years to come?

None of them really, nothing out there really excites me, plus they are all going to loose money.

I could see spending money on a classic, something that puts a smile on your face every time you get in it. Heck might even make a little money if you decide to sell it.


Sister in laws boyfriend just ditched his '08 Chev 2500 HD for a '19. Between their Yukon XL, and the new 2500 they have 200k in vehicles in the driveway... I think they're 'worth' more than the house they live in.

The thing that gets me the most, is he traded the '08 in because he couldn't get it started the other morning. (It was around -35° here, and he didn't plug it in) He just said it was getting old and not worth keeping around if it wouldn't start. Like seriously dude? Nothing starts happily in that weather, let alone a diesel, that hasn't been plugged in.

Have a buddy like that, he says when the tires are worn out, time to trade it in. He is one of those guys who is never satisfied, constantly buying and selling stuff. But that is what keeps our economy rolling...people get bored easily.
 

luthj

Engineer In Residence
It varies a bit, but about 30% of trade in vehicles are underwater on their loans (negative equity). Plus there are about 7 million Americans who are 90 days or more behind on their car payments. I like pretty new things, but not enough to burn $15k in equity on a crap trade in! Those trucks are nice, but for that price I can get a lightly used cab-over with flat bed for legit hauling, and a sports car for the track. Or a nice classic? Maybe a well equipped jeep or small 4x4?

5-6 year old rigs with good options and 100-150k miles are cheap, and you can get another 100k with minimal maintenance. Thats like 100$ per 1000 miles? Pretty reasonable to me.
 

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