goldenfiber
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What is Toyotas oem brand? Like with GM they have AC Delco and Ford has failure Motorcraft, and so on.
Concerns with a 91 taco im looking at.. what do I look for?
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Clutch
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Yeah, it is like doing the rear main seal when you do a clutch. I do a brand new flywheel too.
Gaaad the 2UZ starter, made by engineers that aren't mechanics. Kinda like architects who never built a house.
Oh yeah, the starter. The contacts wear out, after who knows...
I keep a spare set w/plunger in the glove box just in case. Fairly easy roadside repair.
EDIT: Forgot on my list of repairs, recently did a cam shaft seal too.
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Pappy
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Which are available aftermarket. Rockauto.com usually has them for way less than anybody.
Pappy
Active member
You have to admit it was a rather creative place to put it. It was just dumb from a service perspective.
bkg
Explorer
You are spot on. When a $100 starter is a $1500 service engagement, the genius of the location loses its luster.
DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
The only people who'll hate it are shade tree mechanics like us. To the service "provider" (e.g. the professional mechanic) it all pays the same per hour. Since most people don't wrench on their own vehicles and the location may be a benefit in that a starter not subjected to heat will last longer it may be a calculated change to reduce the number of them that fail for the initial owners, you know the ones who are actually buying these vehicles from dealers, instead of the skinflints who buy them used. But then again that's just the engineer in me talking, since the mechanic doesn't have to answer to marketing, management, accountants and stock holders and doesn't care about the details of a product cycle. You know if the traditional location was overall cheaper that's exactly where it would have stayed. But times change, criteria change. We're not talking about needing to replace the starter on a 1974 Monte Carlo every year anymore. I don't know the real stats but Toyota doesn't change something for no reason, especially something on the engine that goes in the Land Cruiser.
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Clutch
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Shoot...if they are like the ones on the Tacoma, under $10 should fix it...but nooooo...
I have had the same starter on my truck since when I bought it, which pretty sure it was still original at 70K....now with 300K more than that and counting on it. Change out the contacts and plunger, and you're good to go.
Does changing the starter to a "better" location really make it last longer? Like everything else now-a-days, it is engineered obsolesce...they want you to take it in to the dealer to work on it, or better yet... trade it in on brandy new vehicle to keep the never ending cycle of consumerism to keep on churning.
Heck, companies like John Deere don't even want you to own or work your own equipment anymore...
Pappy
Active member
This! ******!
bkg
Explorer
When you buy a John Deere, you are signing a license agreement for the software that runs the tractor.
John Deere is only the beginning of that trend, imho. Given the f150 has more lines of code than windows 10 or Facebook, it seems likely the trend will grow.
bkg
Explorer
They do let you “fix” it... within the confines of the licensing agreement. ?