Cowl snorkel or actual snorkel??

Yuman Desert Rat

Expedition Leader
In 14 years of wheeling in Colorado and Moab there was only 1 time a snorkel would have made any difference at all, even then it may have not helped because the water was halfway up the doors. 90% of the vehicles you see in the US with snorkels are for poser purposes only.

Not always posers. Lots of people in the desert run them as a defacto cold air intake which also helps with dust when driving behind others on dusty roads.... but you're right.... lots of posers out there! Lol
 

VanIsle_Greg

I think I need a bigger truck!
Did a few hours 2 ways on really dusty FSR last year, my stock intake on the XJ was more of a vacuum than an air cleaner. Having said that the filter did an excellent job of keeping the crud out...I cleaned it when I got home. It was in a word, clogged.

The new Cowl Snorkel so far seems to do an excellent job at keeping the dust out. Or at least to now more of the dust out. If it didn't your interior would be a dust bowl all the time...that low pressure air above the cowl works well to keep the dust away.

Still really digging the pre-filter idea. SOMEONE make one soon so I can copy it! lol
 

vonguido

Adventurer
Did a few hours 2 ways on really dusty FSR last year, my stock intake on the XJ was more of a vacuum than an air cleaner. Having said that the filter did an excellent job of keeping the crud out...I cleaned it when I got home. It was in a word, clogged.

The new Cowl Snorkel so far seems to do an excellent job at keeping the dust out. Or at least to now more of the dust out. If it didn't your interior would be a dust bowl all the time...that low pressure air above the cowl works well to keep the dust away.

Still really digging the pre-filter idea. SOMEONE make one soon so I can copy it! lol

I will be buying the spectre cowl intake next month and will be buying the AEV pre-filter and finding a 90* elbow. So I will make sure I make a thread on it
 

MtnClimber

Ready To Explore!
Just get a 97+ TJ airtube from a 4.0L. Direct fit, even the valve cover breather tube. Then go to any ricer auto parts store and get a filter. Or even get the Spectra air filter itself.

If I ran a snorkel it'd be from Safari Snorkels. $120 shipped from ebay. Turn the upper housing around for COOLER, less dusty free air. Your still going to get dust air unless you mount the intake in the passenger compartment...

Now matter what you do, the alternator is still lower than your radiator, and ECU is still under the hood. Are those waterproofed?...

No matter the cowl or snorkel, the main goal should be for cooler/denser air. You'll always get dusty/wet air.
 

wADVr

Adventurer
I'd beware of the spectre intake for dusty areas. I drove a friend's TJ with one a couple years ago. When I hit the highway and it had NO power I asked ******?! He told me the filter needed cleaned as it is so small it plugs up very quickly. Night and day difference after cleaning. Just throwing it out there as that would be deal breaker for me.
 

vonguido

Adventurer
I'd beware of the spectre intake for dusty areas. I drove a friend's TJ with one a couple years ago. When I hit the highway and it had NO power I asked ******?! He told me the filter needed cleaned as it is so small it plugs up very quickly. Night and day difference after cleaning. Just throwing it out there as that would be deal breaker for me.

I would think a pre-filter would take care of the majority of that dust wouldn't it? I live in Ohio so not really dusty at all, I would add the pre-filter as I plan on taking a cross country journey fall 2014 into dusty places.
 

bob91yj

Resident **************
...that low pressure air above the cowl works well to keep the dust away.

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The cowl is generally a high pressure area unless you know something I don't. Remember the old cowl induction hoods from the muscle cars? Those would never have worked if it was a low pressure area.
 

VanIsle_Greg

I think I need a bigger truck!
Got it backwards... you are correct (from my research just now).

My bad.

High pressure, at least at the center of the cowl.
 

Ironhead Jed

New member
i know there were some issues with the spectre cone filter on tj's, some were getting smashed when closing the filter tube and not sealing completely

not 100%, but it looks like you have enough space under the hood of an xj to do a windstar cowl intake. i have $35 invested in mine and that included a new filter
 

reece146

Automotive Artist
Interesting.

I am wondering if the canister will hit the hood on an XJ though. The hood is pretty close fitting to the top of the engine.

Maybe substitute a smaller canister... Donaldson make something?

Do you have an approximate diameter on that Windstar canister?

I'm guessing being a TJ you haven't noticed much difference in noise given the wind noise you already have at speed?
 

Ironhead Jed

New member
a tiny bit of noise, but not much. mine was a bit tight due to a 1.5" motor lift. i can measure the canister when i get home tonight
 

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