Disco 1 vs Disco 3 (LR3)
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sunrisehiker
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I may be the second person then as my LR3 is currently at 280 000. I may hit around 290 000 if my March read trip materializes, if to it it will definitely in June. Happy Roving!You’re the first person I’ve come across who has a higher mileage than me.Hitting 300K in about 26K miles.
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Hitting 300K in about 26K miles.
gabrielef
Well-known member
It wouldn’t happen to be gray/black and in Texas would it?
The D1 5-speed sounds like a fun.
@tacocat
Have not followed the entire thread. If you wheel tougher trails, get a D1. Otherwise forget the LR3 and go LR4.
If you work on the vehicle yourself and D1 can be cheap. Don't start with a cheap one though. Start with a solid base, good body, bones and interior.
Also if you wheel, forget a manual trans. Never seen anyone with a manual trans manage anything tough gracefully, although they bragged otherwise. Definitely more interesting on road.
I want an LR4, but if I get one it will replace the P38, not my D1. LR3 is right out. Some really sweet D1 are starting to go for 20k on BAT.
Have not followed the entire thread. If you wheel tougher trails, get a D1. Otherwise forget the LR3 and go LR4.
If you work on the vehicle yourself and D1 can be cheap. Don't start with a cheap one though. Start with a solid base, good body, bones and interior.
Also if you wheel, forget a manual trans. Never seen anyone with a manual trans manage anything tough gracefully, although they bragged otherwise. Definitely more interesting on road.
I want an LR4, but if I get one it will replace the P38, not my D1. LR3 is right out. Some really sweet D1 are starting to go for 20k on BAT.
@bri
Graceful? Absolutely not. It’s all about the herky-jerky going uphill. I do love me some manual on technical downhills. Hopefully you don’t have to stop often.
My DD is a V8 manual. The idea of a manual Disco is because it’s rare, cool, and nostalgic. Plus I can rebuild manual transmissions. Getting them onto the bench is the worst part.
Graceful? Absolutely not. It’s all about the herky-jerky going uphill. I do love me some manual on technical downhills. Hopefully you don’t have to stop often.
My DD is a V8 manual. The idea of a manual Disco is because it’s rare, cool, and nostalgic. Plus I can rebuild manual transmissions. Getting them onto the bench is the worst part.
I double foot my brake, throttle and auto trans and make it look easy compared to anyone that I have wheeled with. There is no beating the simplicity of applying a lot of throttle and then feathering the brake. Seen guys that can *almost* 3 foot a manual, but still just does not work that well. A lost clutch or transmission is the same to me, I will be calling SPOT and Allstate for either.
Downhill is even more scarey, one mistake while shifting and you could be shift out of luck. ;-)
hillstrubl
Observer
Yes, it was designed and first used in 1984 in a 90/110/127 and was used until 2016 in the defender. That's the beauty of the Disco 1, its mechanicals have multiple crossover parts with other land rovers.
Regarding parts availability, there are very few things that are either (actually) NLA and/or not available used via breakers/scrap yards (except stateside stick-shift specific parts, that's getting rare-rare).
With the usual parts houses, you can use a D1 for many many years, you shouldn't have parts worry.
Having said that, I have had a few defenders, a D1, D2 and a D3 (LR3). They are very different vehicles and depending on your tolerance for leaks, quirkiness and old vehicle simplicity, I completely understand the argument to be pro-D3. I sold mine a few months ago and while I don't regret it (I never drive anymore during Covid and I got a 110 a year ago), it was the most reliable land rover I've ever owned. I'm happy to answer any questions between the 2 vehicles, just DM me. The ability to swallow a plethora of stuff and never worry about being stuck (while having adequate fuel economy) is very unique to a D3.
Highlander
The Strong, Silent Type
hillstrubl
The Rang Rover Classic had the same TC up until 1992 if I am not mistaken.
Truly a great piece of engineering.
I wonder what the Ineos Grenadier uses for the TC? They also have gone with a fulltime AWD like the old Defender / Disco 1-2/ RRC
The Rang Rover Classic had the same TC up until 1992 if I am not mistaken.
Truly a great piece of engineering.
I wonder what the Ineos Grenadier uses for the TC? They also have gone with a fulltime AWD like the old Defender / Disco 1-2/ RRC
85_Ranger4x4
Well-known member
Timing chain thing is an issue on the ol' SOHC 4.0. It was supposedly fixed in Fordland around 2003ish, no idea if that lines with Roverland or not. Pretty resilient otherwise, really too bad the D2 didn't get it instead of the aluminum V8 that makes about the same power.
Mom had one in her '02 Explorer, for what it was it got around pretty good. Not a drag racer or a tow pig but the car wasn't either anyway.
Personally... I would love to sneak up on a clean D2 with a blown motor and poke a domestic V8 in it, probably have to learn a new language and go 4.8/5.3. Fairly new, awesome looking body, solid axles, 4 doors... it is hard to find bones like that to build off of with anything else.
Yeah LR didn’t start using them in the US till 05’. Change the external tensioners every 70k and you’re usually good to go. The LR version makes a bit more power as well.
hillstrubl
Observer
Yes, 89-95 IIRC
I haven't seen what it uses "leaked" but it appears to be bespoke as per this article -> https://www.autoblog.com/2020/08/24/ineo-grenadier-video-engine-drivetrain-development-explained/
My money says the Grenadier uses a t case similar to the G wagon.
hillstrubl
Observer
I don't see any reason they shouldn't use something off the shelf from another vehicle. If its actually bespoke IMO its solving issues that don't exist.